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Junkj 02-25-2016 07:32 PM

Tube Headers for Model A
 

Does anyone know where I could buy tube headers for a model A? None of my catalogues seem to have them. Thank you. Junkj

Spokes 02-25-2016 08:04 PM

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Hello, until you get answers you might try doing a search on Ford Barn for Tube Headers. Red's use to make them but I think they are out of business.

waxhead 02-25-2016 08:42 PM

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You could always try BCCHOPIT over on the HAMB. He makes some nice Model A headers. Here's his website

http://waccustoms.com

denis4x4 02-25-2016 08:47 PM

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Bert's in Denver stocks them 800-321-1931 closed Monday's

hardtimes 02-25-2016 09:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Junkj (Post 1248231)
Does anyone know where I could buy tube headers for a model A? None of my catalogues seem to have them. Thank you. Junkj

PM sent...

SteveB31 02-25-2016 11:55 PM

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We are working on having a hundred sets made. Will advise here when they are done.

Steve @ Bert's

BRENT in 10-uh-C 02-26-2016 07:34 AM

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Will a nice used one suffice?

V4F 02-26-2016 12:47 PM

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reds headers

1931 flamingo 02-26-2016 06:51 PM

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See post #3, excellent work ! ! !
Paul in CT

Bader 02-26-2016 08:25 PM

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Sacramento vintage ford.

rogeroadster 02-26-2016 08:37 PM

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Mine is an unusual case because it is a Model B Cragar conversion in a narrowed Model A frame but I built mine from a chevy v8 kit purchased from Summit for $100. Made my own flange and had a lot of tubing left over.

hardtimes 02-26-2016 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by rogeroadster (Post 1248827)
Mine is an unusual case because it is a Model B Cragar conversion in a narrowed Model A frame but I built mine from a chevy v8 kit purchased from Summit for $100. Made my own flange and had a lot of tubing left over.

Hey roger,
YOU are a fine builder/fabricator, my friend :) ! Can't wait to hear that Cragar engine light up !!
Wish I had the coin for your other creation.

rogeroadster 02-27-2016 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by hardtimes (Post 1248886)
Hey roger,
YOU are a fine builder/fabricator, my friend :) ! Can't wait to hear that Cragar engine light up !!
Wish I had the coin for your other creation.

We can always negotiate on the '28...

jerry shook 03-15-2016 11:10 AM

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Brent I am Waiting on Red headers to make some when i called they had sold out. If you have a used one i would be very interested. Let me know.

BCCHOPIT 12-02-2016 10:31 PM

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Thanks guys....

Here is a link to my FB page

This header was last seen running down the
NJ Beach at TROG

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.p...02766899798304

1929 12-03-2016 06:22 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Junkj (Post 1248231)
Does anyone know where I could buy tube headers for a model A? None of my catalogues seem to have them. Thank you. Junkj

Go to Reds,bought mine about 4 months ago, good price, great product and customer service.

captndan 12-03-2016 09:35 AM

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Not to steal your thread but what good would tube headers do? I'm interested because I have a touring engine in one of the cars.

V4F 12-03-2016 09:39 AM

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http://waccustoms.com for good products

DougVieyra 12-03-2016 11:47 AM

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I really enjoy my Cast Iron exhaust header (manifold) on my Ron Kelley 'Touring' engine. It looks much more stock than the steel headers. Except for some possible 'Dry Lakes' usage, I would like to hear why some prefer 'Tube' headers over the heavier cast iron.

JohnLaVoy 12-03-2016 12:53 PM

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www.millerhi-speedheads.com Steve Serr has them.

CarlG 12-03-2016 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DougVieyra (Post 1394169)
I really enjoy my Cast Iron exhaust header (manifold) on my Ron Kelley 'Touring' engine. It looks much more stock than the steel headers. Except for some possible 'Dry Lakes' usage, I would like to hear why some prefer 'Tube' headers over the heavier cast iron.

This is Tod's cast iron header on my Ron Kelley Touring engine. Very happy with it.

old28 12-03-2016 09:58 PM

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CarlG --Where did you get the intake & exhaust manifolds?

What is the compression ratio on the Tod head?

Nice looking motor :):)

DougVieyra 12-04-2016 01:04 AM

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Old28 - "Where did you get the intake & exhaust manifolds?"
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You will find them listed on page 141 (intake) and page 142 (exhaust) of SNYDER'S 2016 catalog. Bratton's has them on page 65 of their 2016 catalog. Bert's has them on page 46 (exhaust Header) and page 48 (intake manifold - Weber). I am sure others carry them as well

CarlG 12-04-2016 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by old28 (Post 1394426)
CarlG --Where did you get the intake & exhaust manifolds?

What is the compression ratio on the Tod head?

Nice looking motor :):)

Intake - Snyder's
Exhaust - Tod Buttermore's prototype, now available @ Snyder's
Head - Snyder's 5.5:1
Thanks.

old28 12-04-2016 09:02 PM

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Thanks for the information on the intake & exhaust.:)

1929 12-05-2016 01:03 AM

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These are the Reds Tube Headers I bought.

old28 12-06-2016 02:00 PM

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Is there any performance difference between a cast iron header and a tube header?

Binger 12-06-2016 04:32 PM

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I met the guys from Geardrive at the Colorado Hill Climb. I am not sure if they build one that is not lake style. Give them a call.

http://www.lakeheaders.com/

BILL WILLIAMSON 12-06-2016 08:43 PM

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I wanted Reds' to build me a 4 into 4 header for Minerva & they just BLEW me OFF------+*#%^$@+^&
Bill Ticked!

updraught 12-06-2016 11:29 PM

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"4-1 Headers
4-1 headers are designed so that all 4 exhaust pipes merge into one. In most dyno tests, this produces the most top end power since it usually offers the best flow characteristics for the engine at high engine speeds. 4-1 headers usually move the power band up"

https://www.redline360.com/garage/4-...kes-more-power

Somewhere I read the stock exhaust manifold flows quite well up to a point.
http://www.modelaparts.net/dynosheet...ynosheets.html

Zoom 12-07-2016 02:02 PM

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A question for 1929,
How do you like that intake manifold?
I see that Red's sells those as well as tube headers.
Dirk

colin1928 12-07-2016 03:34 PM

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Well designed tube headers should be equal length and of a diameter that makes for a scavenge effect that will give a decent power increase
length and diameter are normally the result of trial on a dyno
most of the off the shelf ones I have seen are not equal length so not much better then stock manifolds

old28 12-07-2016 06:36 PM

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CarlG -- Are you happy with the cast iron Tod exhaust header with your intake and head combination? Do you think a 6.2 head would add any more power or just put a bigger load on the bottom end?

CarlG 12-07-2016 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by old28 (Post 1396150)
CarlG -- Are you happy with the cast iron Tod exhaust header with your intake and head combination? Do you think a 6.2 head would add any more power or just put a bigger load on the bottom end?

Very happy with Tod's manifold.

I used the 5.5 head on this build just because it is what I had, plus the fact that Ron (the engine builder) said that the difference between the 5.5 & 6.1 wasn't all that great. He said that he could go up to 7. something without causing any problems on the bottom end (It's an inserted engine).

I probably would have opted for one of Tod's new Winfield or Thomas heads, had they been available when I was having the engine built, but it wasn't worth the extra just to buy a new 6.1 from Snyder's at the time over the 5.5 I already had.

old28 12-07-2016 10:15 PM

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Carl, thanks for the information :)

1929 12-07-2016 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Zoom (Post 1396047)
A question for 1929,
How do you like that intake manifold?
I see that Red's sells those as well as tube headers.
Dirk

I like it Dirk, I thought it looked much better then others I saw, just took time to figure out the linkage to the Carb.

BILL WILLIAMSON 12-08-2016 08:15 AM

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We used to reverse the stock throttle arm, to point UP & it worked well, BUT it was a QUICK throttle response, good for layin' SCRATCH-LOL.
With a multi-disc clutch, I could lay a "little" scratch, with a second gear take off! Of course, I had a 4:11 Crown Wheel & Pinion.
Henry would probably have approved some HOT RODDING. One of the Patent Numbers on the firewall plate is for an OHV ROCKER ARM set up! In 1939, Henry commissioned Arkus Duntov, in England, to design & produce the ARDUN OHV set up, for MORE power, for LARGE Ford Trucks! They're a HEMI set up & became VERY popular, in DRAG RACING! The name "ARDUN" was part of his first & last name. An ORIGINAL ARDUN set up will sell for MEGA BUCKS!!!
Later, Duntov worked for Chevrolets' High Performance Division. Remember his "DUNTOV" cams???
Bill W.


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