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Re: 1932 The Deuce, Dually, Dump Truck Chris,
As Bob C has noted, your front seat cushion is a replacement as the original was in two sections, each with its own wood frame to which the springs are attached. Neither was hinged or otherwise attached to the tank but rather their opening in the center of their wood frames fit snugly over raised areas stamped into the top of the gas tank. All of the '32 commercial vehicle and big truck front seat bottoms share that characteristic with the exception panel deliveries. |
Re: 1932 The Deuce, Dually, Dump Truck Just my 4 cents; first two cent thought is to take the radiator cap and put it in the vault until you can keep an eye on it. Don't let it out of your sight.
second two cents would be to make it functionally perfect without disturbing any of the patina or age or character markings. It needs to be that well used work truck (but running and driving perfectly). I had a friend who took an original untouched model T and rebuilt the running gear to perfection without disturbing any of the grease, dirt or rust on the engine, trans or rear end. Took extra time to perserve that but he has a perfect driving time capsule. Congrats on your project! |
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Re: 1932 The Deuce, Dually, Dump Truck Further to the good advice given about the radiator cap, you would think that since every '32 standard commercial vehicle and big truck came with one they would not be the equivalent of hen's teeth. By the end of the '32 model run there more than 111,000 of those caps in circulation. Where they've all gone is anybody's guess, but I suspect most were simply lost or misplaced or left behind at gas stations. In any event, when you get your truck up and running carry along a reproduction passenger car cap and when you park your truck out in public and leave the one presently on your truck inside the locked cab wrapped in a rag. They have a habit of taking flight if left in place on unattended commercial vehicles and big trucks and to replace it requires lots of luck and serious money.
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Re: 1932 The Deuce, Dually, Dump Truck Folks thanks for the hints on the 32 radiator cap I would not have realized that.
What would be a good average value for one of these rad caps? Regards, Chris |
Re: 1932 The Deuce, Dually, Dump Truck Between $400 and $800
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Re: 1932 The Deuce, Dually, Dump Truck Yikes! I had no clue they would be that pricey? I would have guessed maybe $25?? A little out of touch on this end.
Regards, Chris |
Re: 1932 The Deuce, Dually, Dump Truck I think the problem with that 32 commercial radiator cap is that it looks like a plain ole garden variety sorta model A look and they never achieved any special status until a person goes to replace one and finds out they are 1 of 1. Case in point is a friend of mine is an expert on early V8 Fords, knows all the part numbers by heart ,has enough NOS parts to build a new '34, . He is a truck guru. I was there one day when he was sorting through a bucket of "stuff" and was about to throw away "an old probably model A radiator cap when I saw it. I screamed "stop, go get a white glove and carefully pick up that cap and put it in a safety deposit box"! He was going to give it to me or scrap it. True story and probably the same story for the other 100,000+ caps that went missing.
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Re: 1932 The Deuce, Dually, Dump Truck Floyd,
That is a neat story. And your right, I gave the cap no mind what so ever. I will surely give it a better look when I get to the truck again! Thanks for bringing this to my attention. This might be the best picture I have of the rad top, cap. Looks like it may have some dents?? https://i.imgur.com/pBgMsFS.jpg Regards, Chris |
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Re: 1932 The Deuce, Dually, Dump Truck Folks,
I will try to check in in the morning and in the evening as I begin to learn more about the world some of you live in. I was looking at the picture of the dump bed and thinking about the notch cut in the lowest board on the headboard on the passengers side. I could not figure this out as to why it was not complete. Then it hit me. This truck was a well drillers he carried at tank of water and some pipe. I think the notch was to hold the, longer than bed, pipes in place? What do you think? https://i.imgur.com/1qCWQX4.jpg You guys got me worried about the radiator cap!:) what other surprises do you have for me?? Hope things are good in Ford land! Just some notes about me: Currently driving a 2015 F250 Super Duty 6.7 Power Stroke. Lariat package. Its my daily driver and play toy hauler. Wife Cheryl has 2016 Edge Have 53 Ford Jubilee which does most of the work around here while the orange tractors get washed and set inside!:) Also a Ford LGT100 garden tractor that is in need of much work. Have several Cub Cadets including a 147R and several implements that can be pulled as a train at shows. Regards, Chris |
Re: 1932 The Deuce, Dually, Dump Truck Folks,
I do have a few more random pictues: https://i.imgur.com/Dk3fwds.jpg https://i.imgur.com/ysM2fBb.jpg https://i.imgur.com/crNxBUt.jpg https://i.imgur.com/cp2epin.jpg https://i.imgur.com/ua2OqTe.jpg If I have posted duplicates sorry. https://i.imgur.com/eXNNhOX.jpg Regards, Chris |
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Looks like the engine dust pans are missing or at least the left from your pic.The head lights have been replaced.The correct air cleaner is also a tough one to find. I see it does not have the assy dualtemp (fuel/temp)gauge.The few I have found were in the big trucks.Here is a pic of what it looks like.
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Re: 1932 The Deuce, Dually, Dump Truck deuce lover,
Thanks for the information. I knew about the headlights. Didnt know about the dust pan?? Will need to get some more pictures Wednesday! That gauge is a nice one! Regards, Chris |
Re: 1932 The Deuce, Dually, Dump Truck Sheldon,
Early and mid-year '32 commercial vehicles and big trucks did not have any air cleaner or silencer as standard equipment, only the passenger car fours (and V8s) were so equipped. The first standard equipment attachment to big truck carburetors was a backfire arrestor (BB-9600) in early September (whose survival rate seems to be extremely low). Three oil bath air cleaners were released for service starting in June. The first, BB-9625, intended primarily for trucks, was followed in October by B-9625, intended for all '32 vehicles. Both of those oil bath air cleaners were mounted on the firewall. Lastly, late in the model year, a cylinder-head-mounted oil bath air cleaner (B-9625-B) was released for service for all fours, following the release for service of a cylinder-head-mounted oil bath air cleaner for V8s in October. For obvious practical reasons, I would recommend having one of those alternatives on any '32 big truck. |
Re: 1932 The Deuce, Dually, Dump Truck Thanks for that info.I presume that those big trucks had the dust pans?
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Re: 1932 The Deuce, Dually, Dump Truck David, Deuce Lover, Folks,
Being a newbie, I will have a lot of catching up to do on items related to 32's. Also some research on some of these items. Have to look for the books David recommended too. Here is what we worked on yesterday. Jim B's Doodle tug. Replaced U bolts on the right side spring perch and moved that side back 1 inch to re-align the axle. Torch and a lot of ground time. https://i.imgur.com/0ZlrwVL.jpg Regards, Chris |
Re: 1932 The Deuce, Dually, Dump Truck Sugarmaker
There is an ad in the swap meet section right now for a set of "commercial" headlights if you need a pair!!!! 06/08/2021 at 1:35pm est |
Re: 1932 The Deuce, Dually, Dump Truck Unfortunately they sold quickly and they were good ones. I guess they are a little bit like the radiator caps, not in price, but in availability, despite over 222,000 having been produced. There's always the option of painting the buckets of a pair of passenger car head lamps as they are otherwise identical and there are lots of '32 passenger car lamps that have survived.
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Re: 1932 The Deuce, Dually, Dump Truck Sheldon,
Ford designated them pans (engine) R.H. (BB-6775) and L.H. (BB-6776), not to be confused with pan (oil) assembly, basic part number 6675. I refer to them as engine splash pans. BB-6775 was not provided as a service part but rather the parts catalogs state that they are to be made from the B-6775 passenger car/commercial vehicle four-cylinder pan, which involved trimming the B-prefix pan. Unfortunately I do not have a photo of the BB-prefix pans to share. |
Re: 1932 The Deuce, Dually, Dump Truck I learned to drive in my grandfathers '32 BB stake body truck. It worked on a farm with no air cleaner. That is probably why it went in for an overhaul about every five years. The brakes were terrible for a skinny 15 year old. Took both feet to slow it down on that hill in the orchard. With a load of fire wood, my grandfather had to back up one hill, maybe because reverse was a lower gear than low gear; maybe to maintain gravity fuel flow to the carb.
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I did attempt to secure those headlights, but as most times a day late and a couple dollars short. Alan was nice enough to get back to me and let me know. Tomorrow the 32 should be coming home unless something strange happens. I will try to get some pictures. Friend Jim is going to meet me to help sucure the truck and the bed for transport. Regards, Chris |
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Didn't '32's have a fuel pump? Or just on the cars, not the big trucks? |
Re: 1932 The Deuce, Dually, Dump Truck They ('32s) all had fuel pumps.
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So it was the lower gear needed to get him up the hill with a full load. |
Re: 1932 The Deuce, Dually, Dump Truck The lever and rod on the shifter is the reverse lockout. Pulling it up towards the gearshift knob allows you to push the shifter to the left and down (not up I think) to engage the reverse gear. You can try this without the engine running. You should be able to make an H pattern for 1-2-3-4 gears and then add the reverse position by pulling the lever up.
You have a nice truck. Virtually all of the 1932 BB trucks came with a 4-cylinder engine. |
Re: 1932 The Deuce, Dually, Dump Truck To add to Model51 last sentence, given the relatively late release of the V8 engines for installation in big trucks, of the 74,978 '32 model big trucks produced world wide, only 3,682 were V8 powered.
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Re: 1932 The Deuce, Dually, Dump Truck Folks,
Good morning! We have been busy here! Summer and a new Ford in the family. Also 49 years ago our oldest son was born. Going to spend some time with him today too! Back to this old AAB truck, Wow and I in learning mode! Thanks to all for the responses, suggestions and recommendations. Based on other threads on othwer forums, you probably should get some popcorn make your self comfortable and enjoy the ride in this case the FORD ride! Wednesday June 9 the 32 was loaded and picked up from the garage it had been stored in. Some pictures have friend Jim and or the previous owner of the dump truck. (Larry). I am the old guy in the orange (thats from another forum). The 32 sees the light of day for first time in several decades! https://i.imgur.com/UrPALTB.jpg We used the 8K Warn winch to gently tug the 32 from its home onto my car hauler. https://i.imgur.com/1EYRO3a.jpg https://i.imgur.com/aCrgndW.jpg https://i.imgur.com/Y09NbXl.jpg Larry and his wife and my 32. https://i.imgur.com/Di5MGvs.jpg Ready for the short journey home to Albion. (about 25 miles) https://i.imgur.com/VD2RjlS.jpg The ride home was uneventful. The 32 liked it's hair blowing in the breeze! Not knowing the curb weight it pulled about like one of my heavier Allis tractors at 5000 lbs. I have not looked up specs on weight yet. Ecpect to have the PA title in 8 weeks. Larry wrote me a receipt for the cost on a book that he found in the truck that must have been from the late 40's! Very cool! Much more to come just need to load some additional pictures in imgur. I have been playing with it every chance I can. By the way the radiator cap rode home in the center console of the 2015 F250 SuperCrew! Regards, Chris |
Re: 1932 The Deuce, Dually, Dump Truck Folks,
I will have these little items, questions and things that I should go do the research on but I am human and will probably ask first rather than do the work. I am lazy some times.:) Here is one. So the drivers door handle was some what longer and pointer than the passengers side? Behind the seat we found the one that matches the passenger side (shorter stubbier. Ok which one is correct? I have changed to the stubby one, they match and it seems happy there too. So I could be wrong. I did a google search and did not really get a visual match for either one. I will get some pictures. Or if you have pictures and want to teach me that would be ok too. This is what we found behind the seat, and I installed on the drivers side door. https://i.imgur.com/d9d8KNe.jpg We found other goodies too! Along with 16 gallons of mouse nests in the seat bottom Regards, Chris |
Re: 1932 The Deuce, Dually, Dump Truck Body lines matching on the door and cab, good sign, most doors would be drooping. That color combination is the same as my tudor and would look good repainted as most trucks were red or black.
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Re: 1932 The Deuce, Dually, Dump Truck I had noticed that the left side outside door handle had been replaced. What you show in your latest photo is the original version, which you've now reinstalled. If any of your inside handles need replacement, please me know I have some good originals with patina that are yours for the asking.
I'm looking forward to a photo of the right side of your engine compartment. |
Re: 1932 The Deuce, Dually, Dump Truck Looks like an original mirror bracket also, take care of it.
If you need chassis parts such as front axle, brakes and transmission a lot were the same from 1930-34. |
Re: 1932 The Deuce, Dually, Dump Truck A good bath, a tune up and a new old seat cover and you are ready for the show circuit!
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Re: 1932 The Deuce, Dually, Dump Truck I don't care what anyone says; that is in NICE shape!
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Re: 1932 The Deuce, Dually, Dump Truck All those small items, radiator cap, door knobs, window cranks, side and rear mirrors and license plate brackets, rear stop light assembly, take a look and make sure they are secured and by themselves are worth a small fortune! Man oh man what a treasure!! CONGRATULATIONS!!! I would be sleeping out in the barn all night with it. WOWEE!!!!!
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Thanks for the notes on the truck. Not being a good judge of these I felt it was pretty good. I have seen a lot of vehicles that I have run away from. This old 32 looked pretty good. And Cheryl likes the color. Which to my eye is a teal (green/ blue). Most folks that are also not experts think its in pretty good shape. Regards, Chris |
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I will get that picture for you! Thanks for the offer on the hardware too. Very generous of you. You ask about some features on the truck. I will try to get back to all them but if I dont please remind me too. I did look under the visor and it has a brace in the center. I believe that was in reference to when the truck may have actually been assembled. So it makes me wonder about the guy that owned it. Here is my story. The door original door handle was damaged or broke. HE went and found the pointed handle that fit and worked . Later found a correct handle and placed it behind the seat for me to put in 80 years later??? The new handle fit and works fine! Note there is some door damage at theis drivers handle area. Slight push in of the door metal around the handle. Question. I need door checks (to keep doors from swinging too far). I will research for those. Regards, Chris |
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I will try to tuck that away in the old memory bank too. Regards, Chris |
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The bath. I am afraid to!:) It has not seen water in 70 years. On the seats: The back looks to be original but the bottom is not. I checked with my local upholstery guy and he said the original material looked like his samples of "truck and Bus seat material. He had a black and a dark blue material that I liked. So I will ask a question, and I know everyone has a different view of things. Would a guy get the seats back to some like new condition?? That is what I feel is the thing to do. So the seat back springs are salvageable. and recoverable. Clean and adde a wooden 1/4 inch backer board to attach and stiffen the springs was the suggestion for the seat shop. The bottoms he suggested buying reproduction spring sets and he could cover them the same. (split seat) Looked in Snyders and saw some 32 springs I think for $140 each?? So I have this seat base with pretty good springs. Dont think I am going to use it. (Could take it apart and maybe build the split seats but a lot of moneking around and might not be close to being correct. So what would you do with seating up grade? I dont think its going to cut it for me to use the very worn and very sad wrong bottom seat. If I get this drivable in the future I want my old butt to be comfy! Regards, Chris |
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