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coatings03 07-04-2018 11:42 AM

Carb riser on stromberg 81 carb
 

Happy 4th to all barners,
I have a question about the downdraft carbs using the carb risers 4”;6” and 8”. What significant benefit does this have installing a 2-carb set up on a model a engine.

Thank you,
Jim m

emf 07-04-2018 06:10 PM

Re: Carb riser on stromberg 81 carb
 

Check out this site. it seems they won't help a bit under 5000 RPM...

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Frank

coatings03 07-04-2018 07:38 PM

Re: Carb riser on stromberg 81 carb
 

Frank,
Very good article explains the process and answers that question!��

Thank you,
Jim m

MrBruce 07-05-2018 09:14 AM

Re: Carb riser on stromberg 81 carb
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by coatings03 (Post 1647437)
Happy 4th to all barners,
I have a question about the downdraft carbs using the carb risers 4”;6” and 8”. What significant benefit does this have installing a 2-carb set up on a model a engine.

Thank you,
Jim m

I'm fighting the problem (never run a downdraft before) with a Stromberg 97 on a Model A which is inserted with a Lions head. Runs good except for start up. It is flooded without any choke...has to burn off gas...bothers me as I don't want to wash the rings out. Only time it doesn't blubber is when I have just driven it? I'm wondering if the fuel pump pressure is too high? I've got a "Burns" setup with two Stromberg 81's but feel I don't need two carbs so am not going to use it. Any help on the fuel at start up...?

1931 flamingo 07-05-2018 10:06 AM

Re: Carb riser on stromberg 81 carb
 

Try swapping one of the 81's for the 97 or have "Uncle Max" on the EV* forum rebuild the 97.
Paul in CT

MrBruce 07-05-2018 10:49 AM

Re: Carb riser on stromberg 81 carb
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1931 flamingo (Post 1647783)
Try swapping one of the 81's for the 97 or have "Uncle Max" on the EV* forum rebuild the 97.
Paul in CT

The 97 is new. I don't want to break the set of two 81's from the Burns manifold as I am going to get rid of that set up. I'm wondering about taking the block out from under the carb and then hooking it up as gravity feed instead of the electric fuel pump? I picked up a gauge to see what pressure the pump is putting out and see if it could be two high? I heard that it shouldn't be more 2.5 lbs pressure from the pump? Just trying to get the fittings correct to hook up the gauge

Jim Brierley 07-05-2018 11:56 AM

Re: Carb riser on stromberg 81 carb
 

Mr. Bruce, I would shut your fuel pump off 30 seconds, or more, before turning off the engine. This eliminates any pressure in the system. Residual line pressure will push fuel into the bowl as the engine sits there, and cause your starting problem. I shut mine off as I enter my driveway. You might also check the fuel level in the bowls to be sure they aren't too high. A pair of 81's isn't too much in most cases but I recommend one 97 for a mild touring engine. I run three 81's on my speedster, it runs great and gets good fuel mileage.

Jim Brierley 07-05-2018 11:59 AM

Re: Carb riser on stromberg 81 carb
 

emf, Not sure that I agree with the article on spacers. I believe longer 'runners' give more velocity, so run better on the street. Try them on your A and see how they work.

MrBruce 07-05-2018 12:36 PM

Re: Carb riser on stromberg 81 carb
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Brierley (Post 1647833)
Mr. Bruce, I would shut your fuel pump off 30 seconds, or more, before turning off the engine. This eliminates any pressure in the system. Residual line pressure will push fuel into the bowl as the engine sits there, and cause your starting problem. I shut mine off as I enter my driveway. You might also check the fuel level in the bowls to be sure they aren't too high. A pair of 81's isn't too much in most cases but I recommend one 97 for a mild touring engine. I run three 81's on my speedster, it runs great and gets good fuel mileage.

Jim
That's the info I was looking for, I was shutting my tank off coming down the road but I don't think the shut off is that good so I had bought a switch and was going to do what you said. So, you confirmed what I was thinking...thank you...not used to these down draft carbs. Love the looks of them.

emf 07-05-2018 01:33 PM

Re: Carb riser on stromberg 81 carb
 

Jim, I was just pointing to an article that talked about risers. My pair of 81's on a Burns manifold run just fine for me without risers.

Frank

1929 07-05-2018 10:50 PM

Re: Carb riser on stromberg 81 carb
 

I have a 97 on mine, I just disconnected the fuel pump and regulator, I was getting similar problems. I do prefer to run gravity feed because its 2 less items I need to worry about. The only problem is, I cant go over 60mph on gravity.

coatings03 07-05-2018 10:52 PM

Re: Carb riser on stromberg 81 carb
 

I’m going to first try running gravity feed, see how that works out. Keeping the 81’s as low as possible without any phenolic spacers. Spoke to Charlie Price(Vintage Speed-Florida) he mentions keeping the carbs low and use 2nd carb with just a slight crack opening!

Jim m

Jim Brierley 07-06-2018 11:44 AM

Re: Carb riser on stromberg 81 carb
 

emf, I don't run risers either, and have good luck with them. I do some racing, and have seen a lot of articles on this, so just repeating what I have seen, and believe.

George Miller 07-07-2018 10:50 AM

Re: Carb riser on stromberg 81 carb
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBruce (Post 1647853)
Jim
That's the info I was looking for, I was shutting my tank off coming down the road but I don't think the shut off is that good so I had bought a switch and was going to do what you said. So, you confirmed what I was thinking...thank you...not used to these down draft carbs. Love the looks of them.

That is what I do with my 94 and electric pump. shut it off before I get to the garage. It does away with the gas perking when you stop.


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