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bmwillia 05-25-2021 01:12 PM

Intake Valve not seating
 

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I am getting good compression on all cylinders but #8(30lbs). I pulled the head and intake and can see that the intake valve is not seating. I put a light in the intake hole and can see light around the edges of the valve in the closed position. Can anyone tell me how I should proceed with fixing this issue?

corvette8n 05-25-2021 01:18 PM

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You will have to pull the retainer and remove the valve it may be bent, if not clean and lube the guide/ valve.

Bob C 05-25-2021 01:23 PM

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Do you have any clearance between the valve stem and lifter??

bmwillia 05-25-2021 01:41 PM

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I have removed the valve and cleaned it. I haven't put a feeler on it yet. I'll try to do that this afternoon.

bmwillia 05-25-2021 02:07 PM

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I think maybe the valve is bent.

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Kurt in NJ 05-25-2021 02:58 PM

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Looks to me like possibly lifter broke, crank it around so it moves up and look closer

Will D 05-25-2021 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Kurt in NJ (Post 2020104)
Looks to me like possibly lifter broke, crank it around so it moves up and look closer

I second that. If you zoom in, looks like a crack on the lifter.

marko39 05-25-2021 03:27 PM

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It also looks like the valve guide halves are not even. Should be able to find a used valve,guide and lifter to replace what's there. Lap the valve and grind the stem to set clearance. If clearance is too much get a longer valve. Keep it simple. Mark

bmwillia 05-25-2021 03:39 PM

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The valve halves are ok. They are uneven in the picture because the clip isn't in holding them together. Just using the guide here to line up the valve stem.

I'll take another look at the lifter, but I have turned the engine over a few times and didn't notice any problems with it all together other than the valve not seating. Would a broke lifter keep the valve from seating properly?

Should the valve head be angled slightly? This one is, which is why I thought it may be bent.

Thanks!

jayvee34 05-25-2021 03:55 PM

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If it is sitting at a angle, its bent.

bmwillia 05-25-2021 04:11 PM

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The lifter is ok. The line you see is from the casting I assume.

I'm going to pull a different valve and check it in the same hole and see if it fits any better.

bmwillia 05-25-2021 05:33 PM

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Swapped the valve, and it seated right up.

Where should I order a new valve from? Mac Vanpelt?

Phil Gillespie 05-25-2021 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by bmwillia (Post 2020155)
Swapped the valve, and it seated right up.

Where should I order a new valve from? Mac Vanpelt?

I would go with him or 3rd generation whoever maybe closest to you.
Reason valve bent?
Good that you found the problem.
Phil NZ

VeryTangled 05-25-2021 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by bmwillia (Post 2020155)
...Where should I order a new valve from? Mac Vanpelt?

An excellent selection.

'Barn'ers decided to create a couple of threads on the topic. See below.

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=269580

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showt...1339&showall=1

Terry,OH 05-25-2021 07:31 PM

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You may think of replacing the guide also. remove the lifter and look closely for a crack in the top angled side.

aussie merc 05-25-2021 09:19 PM

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valves dont just bend find the cause or you will go through all this drama again Next time it could be catastrophic

bmwillia 05-25-2021 10:04 PM

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I don’t know the history of this engine. I believe it was a rebuild but I’m not sure who did it or the level of quality of their work.

What should I look for? What would cause a bent valve?


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aussie merc 05-26-2021 02:34 AM

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i'ld re check that lifter it shore looks to be split to me also check the head above the valve for any signs of impact

Tim Ayers 05-26-2021 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by bmwillia (Post 2020129)
The lifter is ok. The line you see is from the casting I assume.

I'm going to pull a different valve and check it in the same hole and see if it fits any better.

I don't believe the Ford style lifters are cast. Judging from the pictures, that lifter certainly looks cracked to me.

chap52 05-26-2021 07:29 AM

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While it open I would replace the complete lifter, valve, guide, clip, etc.. Lap it in, set it to specs and reassemble. You have apparently identified the issue and a little overkill on the fix may save you time and money down the road.
All you who have done a repair "half way" and had to go in and do it again raise your hand... If the second repair was three times as expensive and more time consuming than the first raise your hand.
Just saying, "enjoy the adventure"... Chap


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