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rkmiller 02-21-2020 11:04 AM

commercial color list for 1929
 

New member, have been looking through commercial color postings but could not find a list of all the available colors for 1929. I have ordered the paint and finish guide book, should have it soon. I have been told it does not cover much on commercial colors.


I have a late 1929 roadster pickup and was looking at something other than rock moss green. I have been told by other local model A people that Fleet colors could include Andalusite Blue.


I would like to be somewhat period correct, but Gun Metal Blue (actually more green than blue), commercial drab - brown/gray are not high on my list.


I am probably 6 months away from paint, but it is a big decision!

mike657894 02-21-2020 11:19 AM

Re: commercial color list for 1929
 

this web site has a listing for ford for 29 http://paintref.com/cgi-bin/colorcod...929&manuf=Ford

rkmiller 02-21-2020 11:22 AM

Re: commercial color list for 1929
 

Thanks! I looked at the too. It doesn't list what would have been available for commercial vehicles. Could a fleet color be any of the available colors for all 1929 vehicles?


Thanks!

Bob C 02-21-2020 11:31 AM

Re: commercial color list for 1929
 

Here you go. https://www.mafca.com/tqa/p-29truck.html

Joe K 02-21-2020 12:43 PM

Re: commercial color list for 1929
 

IIRC, the strip was considered "optional." My 29 CC pickup was originally gunmetal blue, but NO stripe.

Mine was likely a "kit production" made in Somerville, MA assembly plant. (Stamped as such on the body cross-member just behind the battery floorboard.)

Joe K

rkmiller 02-21-2020 01:21 PM

Re: commercial color list for 1929
 

Thanks guys! I also finally found another thread on this website that appears a person involved in judging standards posted that off the line those 5 colors are what to be known for commercial use until 1931 when other colors could be ordered.


https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showt...ial+drab+color


I am probably going to do the Andalusite Blue as it looks good, is a Model A color and I am not going to be showing or having it judged. It will be a good solid driving vehicle (alternator, improved water pump, etc.) that is mostly period correct and not a 100% factory show vehicle.


On another note, I looked at my Dad's old Ditz-lac paint chip book from the 40's-50's and it shows Gun Metal Blue to be a darker blue than the light to medium green photos of vehicles on this site.


Hopefully the MAFCA book has a Gun Metal Blue paint chip.

Stew Masche 02-21-2020 06:35 PM

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From the Judging Standards. And unless you’re going for fine point judging, what difference does it make? Do it your way, and be satisfied.

Tudortomnz 02-21-2020 08:17 PM

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Yes. not a lot of choice with commercial colours until '31, most here were dark green.
New, buyer paid more for pin stripe & paint polish. To be correct, commercials were dull finish, not buffed.
Lots out there now with red, yellow & Kermit green.!

Charlie Stephens 02-21-2020 08:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stew Masche (Post 1854380)
From the Judging Standards. And unless you’re going for fine point judging, what difference does it make? Do it your way, and be satisfied.

It may come back to haunt you if you sell it.

Charlie Stephens

whirnot 02-21-2020 09:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tudortomnz (Post 1854417)
Yes. not a lot of choice with commercial colours until '31, most here were dark green.
New, buyer paid more for pin stripe & paint polish. To be correct, commercials were dull finish, not buffed.
Lots out there now with red, yellow & Kermit green.!

Actually I believe there were more colors available as of August 1930. Then even more in 31.
I am going to use Rubellite red which was introduced in '30. I believe it was the only Red done at the time. But you sure see a lot of Vermillion 1930 trucks.

rkmiller 02-22-2020 01:39 PM

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Thanks guys!


I have not sold out on Gun Metal Blue. Once I get the "Paint and Finish Guide" book and compare it to my dad's library of old paint chip books I am going to take the paint reference code to the Ditzler store and have them mix up a couple of colors I can spray out.


Paint chips being smaller will look darker than a larger area. It gets confusing looking on the internet at everyone's interpretation of the color and the old nitrocellulose laquers on the original paint will have degraded too much to show the true original color.


For almost 40 years I have been painting cars and at one time mixed paint at a shop I worked at. Blending paint on new cars with the improved modern paints still takes some shading to match panels on a vehicle.


On vintage cars I have learned everyone has an opinion on what is the correct shade!


Thanks!

rkmiller 02-29-2020 08:27 PM

Re: commercial color list for 1929
 

OK so I received the model A paint guide book and looked through colors. I also had some Dupont 151 Gun Metal Blue mixed up and I spayed it out to compare with the Paint Guide book color chip.



They both appear to be close, but the small chip in the paint guide book appears to be more gray.


The smaller the paint sample the more dark it will look vs a larger area of sprayed paint.


The Dupont 151 color in direct sunlight at certain angles can look darker gray or sometimes a tinge of blue/green.


I have at least 6 months to figure out a color, still like Andalusite Blue but I have always gone period correct in past car restorations.


I wish there were more photos of Model A's in Gun Metal Blue to look at, seems like it is not a popular color like the blue and of course there are lots of green commercial open cab pickup photos.


Would like to do something other than green.....

rkmiller 02-29-2020 09:17 PM

Re: commercial color list for 1929
 

I also received the judging guide in the mail today. A lot of info but nothing on pickups. There was a lot on cars, heavy commercial trucks, station wagons, etc.

Also there was no list for serial numbers and estimated production dates - I know the engine number was used as the vehicle serial number and many times stamped on the frame, but you would think the judging standard would have that list too.

Also did not have photos of a lot of the parts changes, but instead attempted to describe them.

Overall there is a lot of information and it is laid out very well. The photos of parts that are present are good and show the details well.

I am not saying the book is not worth buying, just there could be much more. I think it is a good reference.

I am not working on a 100 point car, just want to know if a part I am about to buy is correct or not. Then I can decide based on price, availability, drivability, maintenance aspects etc.


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