Buried Treasure - 1934 Ford Coupe Ute
 

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That is archaeology !
Trevor, do you reckon it is the Coupe Utility? Noticed around & under back window some slots where maybe joined rear panels? Were the Ute tops done like that. I believe for the Coupe, the Aussie made metal tops [ & doors ] were mated to Canadian roadster decks & cowls but was the top bolted before welding on? Cheers.

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Here is a picture of the rear part of the roof on a 1934 Ford Coupe Ute. On this photo, you can see that there is a panel that extends down lower than the molding where it would normally join to the Coupe rear section.

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That's a cool find. Hopefully they can salvage something useful from it.

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Good luck!

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Where is that all original Ute ? Great pic .
Notice that the buried Ute looks to have an access. cowl tool box.
Going by the way the rear quarters have been cut, must be the Utility& not Coupe.
Cheers

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This original survivor 1934 Ford Coupe Ute is on display in a Museum in Victoria. It is a genuine one, not a made-up one from a 1933 Ford Sedan that Ford Australia is promoting in their advertising. It is great to see this "as found" Ute being displayed for all to enjoy.

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Those Aussie built 33/34 coupes ( and I don't mean this coupe ute) had "taller" windows than the USA versions....you could wear a top had in one.

GB

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A useful farm fashion accessory!

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Yeah - the rear quarter window has a half-34, half-Model-A sort of shape to it. Kind of goofy, but kind of cool!

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American and Australian Five Window Coupe Side Windows compared. Take a look at these two photos and you can see that the Australian roof-line is higher, and the window in the door is shorter. The Utes shared the same roof-line and door with the Coupe. The local Sedans used a different front door with different moldings than were used on the Coupe. It is a pity that Ford Australia chose not to use the USA design.

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Compare these two pictures of the roof and windows of a genuine Coupe Ute (green) and the home-made ute creation (cream) that Ford Australia is promoting as an original 1934 Ford Coupe Ute. It actually started out as a 1933 Ford Sedan, that they worked into a Coupe Ute. Notice how vertical the rear portion of the roof is, as it started out as the rear of the 1933 Ford Sedan that they brought forward to meet the B Pillar. This resulted in the non-original shape of the rear side windows. If only they had restored a genuine 1934 Ford Coupe Ute to use in their promotions. That would have been good.

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That is really a noticeable difference! Sorta an anti-chopped roof. :)

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Well, did you get it all the way out yet?

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Probably got a few blisters by now if they are still digging.

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Interesting comparisons; do you think the reason Ford Australia had to use a unique door & quarter window design was because of the use of Canadian roadster reardecks which would have had a shorter cabin area than an American 5W?
Re the created Ute owned by Ford Aust., perhaps the association with Lewis Brandt, the original designer of the Ute, has something to do with it. Although Ford apprentices of the time did the work, Bandt used to promote it at events. When he was killed in this car [ late '80s I think] it was then rebuilt, & the Ford association with it was probably too strong [ & costly] to go back & find another very rare original Ute to restore. Just my thoughts on it. Cheers.

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1934 Ford Coupe showing where the welds are, highlighted by chalk. Notice that Ford Australia had to lengthen the rear quarters slightly to use in the Coupes. This is the bare body with the wooden parts removed.

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I am wondering if the Aussie coupe body was made shorter in length and taller so that it could be compatible with the coupe utility body. You want to minimise cab length to maximise load area. I don't know what the ratio of coupes to coupe utilities was, but with my automotive production background I'm thinking the possible relatively high ratio of utility bodies may have put restraints on the proper coupe body styling. In other words it paid to make as much of the two bodies the same, and the proportions of the American coupe body, if adopted for the coupe utility body, would have compromised the load area. I believe Ford of Australia would have been wanting to keep up a certain amount of localised content. You can see the body id welded together from smaller panels. This would indicate a smaller press capacity available to the Aussie plant.

A question. Who made the Aussie Ford Coupe and Coupe Utility bodies? Was it Ford themselves or an outside supplier?

Mart.

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When dye costs exceeds the potential profits of small production runs , a mix and match of parts would be necessary for cost saving ,as far as I can tell Australia didn't have the ability to make complicated dyes , stamping possible limited to small lots /parts ,

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Ford Australia offered the Coupe body with the full steel rear section in late November or early December 1933 before the Coupe Ute was thought of. When the 1933 Ford Coupes were first released, they had a fabric rear section and Landau Bars.