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chrisabes 02-09-2020 12:15 AM

Kangaroo fuel.
 

Well, not literally . I have just about finished the rebuild on my '28 Roadster Pickup but am having a difficult time getting the engine to accelerate smoothly. When I depress the accelerator whilst driving, the revs buid up very quickly, making my foot push harder on the accelerator pedal making the revs increase even further. I remove my foot from the accelerator pedal which decreases the RPM. On depressing the pedal again, the cycle is repeated giving the appearance of a kangaroo hopping :D
I have tried a second carby but am getting the same result. Winding the GAV valve either way doesn't make any significant differance.
Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks.

Tacoma Bob 02-09-2020 12:39 AM

Re: Kangaroo fuel.
 

Are you using the foot rest?

chrisabes 02-09-2020 01:33 AM

Re: Kangaroo fuel.
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tacoma Bob (Post 1850152)
Are you using the foot rest?

No foot rest. I don't have one in my other model A and haven't felt a need for one. Would prefer to do without.

updraught 02-09-2020 02:23 AM

Re: Kangaroo fuel.
 

Watch out for Hector the emu and the wombat with explosives.
https://www.nfsa.gov.au/latest/skipp...ies-remembered

Dave Slater 02-09-2020 03:57 AM

Re: Kangaroo fuel.
 

Does it accelerate smoothly when in neutral and operating the throttle by hand?

Synchro909 02-09-2020 06:34 AM

Re: Kangaroo fuel.
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by updraught (Post 1850160)
Watch out for Hector the emu and the wombat with explosives.
https://www.nfsa.gov.au/latest/skipp...ies-remembered

Just as well you didn't ell him about the drop bears!

Badpuppy 02-09-2020 10:29 AM

Re: Kangaroo fuel.
 

I don't know what RHD linkage looks like, but it may be a lever upside down.

1crosscut 02-09-2020 11:34 AM

Re: Kangaroo fuel.
 

I'm with Bob in post #2

DBrer 02-09-2020 11:56 AM

Re: Kangaroo fuel.
 

I think it would be difficult to be smooth and steady without a foot rest, but I have never tried it.

chrisabes 02-09-2020 05:36 PM

Re: Kangaroo fuel.
 

Thanks for the suggestions, may have to resort to fitting a foot rest.

rocket1 02-09-2020 06:05 PM

Re: Kangaroo fuel.
 

Pox on the foot rest,never used it in 60 years!

updraught 02-09-2020 06:47 PM

Re: Kangaroo fuel.
 

So, the power is so great that when you put your foot down you clutch the steering wheel with gritted teath and twisted grin and mash the pedal. Maybe the titanium crankshaft or the moon craters in the driveway. The RHD linkage only has one pivot and is a bugger on bumpy roads.
As above, does it do it with the hand throttle?

daveymc29 02-09-2020 10:02 PM

Re: Kangaroo fuel.
 

Try driving one of the early V8's without a footrest. I drove a 1940 garbage truck (Ford) that had a spoon shaped accelerator peddle, real low gears and would knock me back in the seat on letting the clutch out, bounce forward and floorboard it which jerked me back into the seat, ect, ect. Finally figured out that I needed to have my foot on the footrest and roll it onto the spoon ever so slowly, making for a gradual increase in rpm's that didn't cause me to bounce around like a Super ball. Never was good with it but got better so the boss didn't fire me. I was 15 or so working in a private park picking up trash on the weekends for about 35 cents per hour. (1951)

chrisabes 02-10-2020 03:36 AM

Re: Kangaroo fuel.
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Slater (Post 1850172)
Does it accelerate smoothly when in neutral and operating the throttle by hand?

I went for a short drive this pm.using the hand throttle, at low RPM the engine was as before but with an increase in RPM, there was a market improvement.
I will be checking the ignition components next.

updraught 02-10-2020 03:56 AM

Re: Kangaroo fuel.
 

Might be running lean, like a lawn mower about to run out of fuel.

mike657894 02-10-2020 06:31 AM

Re: Kangaroo fuel.
 

Surging sounds electrical. If you think its the lack of a foot rest. Use the hand throttle. How does it run through the gears full throttle? Whats the history on your coil and distributor?

Edit. sorry Chrisabes. I see now you had the same idea two posts up. I just put a flame thrower pertronix coil on my car and I was surprised how it smoothed out my idle and cold running.

Another thing i thought of. The worst my car has ever ran. Back firing like an old movie scene. I had a loose generator connection when the battry ground cable lost contact. Moral of that story check all your connections.

Ernie Vitucci 02-10-2020 03:28 PM

Re: Kangaroo fuel.
 

Good afternoon...Another possibility might be the exhaust manifold is a bit loose. Check the torque on the bolts and look for exhaust markings on the block. You can also spray something like priming fluid, along the seam of the manifold and see if it changes the speed of the engine...Ernie in Arizona

dumb person 02-17-2020 01:10 PM

Re: Kangaroo fuel.
 

If it smooths out after idling a while, fuel flow maybe be restricted. Check pipes & fittings. (have seen thread tape partly blocking fuel line produce these symptoms)

chrisabes 03-04-2020 04:51 AM

Re: Kangaroo fuel.
 

A quick update! When using the hand throttle, the vehicle accelerates reasonably smoothley. Once the RPM is increased, the engine stabilises and operates well using the pedal.
As mentioned in an earlier post, I have tried running the engine using three different carbies with no improvement. I have also changed the distributor again no change.
A thought that I have is a lack of exhaust back pressure as the exhaust is non standard. Perhaps this would allow the engine to accelerate quicker resulting in a more sensative throttle?

updraught 03-04-2020 07:07 AM

Re: Kangaroo fuel.
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrisabes (Post 1858427)
A quick update! When using the hand throttle, the vehicle accelerates reasonably smoothley. Once the RPM is increased, the engine stabilises and operates well using the pedal.
As mentioned in an earlier post, I have tried running the engine using three different carbies with no improvement. I have also changed the distributor again no change.
A thought that I have is a lack of exhaust back pressure as the exhaust is non standard. Perhaps this would allow the engine to accelerate quicker resulting in a more sensative throttle?

No. A low compression engine runs best with no back pressure.
You can tie a tin can over the end of the exhaust fairly tightly to create back pressure, (will run quieter) and try it.


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