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jkflathead 09-16-2023 12:36 PM

'38 and '39 Banjo Difference?
 

Which one of these banjo steering wheels is 1939 and which is 1938, based on the center core? Thanks. John

petehoovie 09-16-2023 02:08 PM

Re: '38 and '39 Banjo Difference?
 

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Originally Posted by jkflathead (Post 2255932)
Which one of these banjo steering wheels is 1939 and which is 1938, based on the center core? Thanks. John

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...7&d=1694885729

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...8&d=1694885729

deuce_roadster 09-16-2023 02:56 PM

Re: '38 and '39 Banjo Difference?
 

2 pictures from the top might be better. I have a 38 that looks like the top picture. Are you sure the bottom wheel has not been modified?

jkflathead 09-16-2023 05:46 PM

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It has not been modified.

38 coupe 09-16-2023 07:12 PM

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The 38-39 Ford Book states the only difference between the banjo wheels is the little tie bar and the color of the rim with no difference in the hubs.
I remember in a talk given by the author Gary Mallast he said he was surprised when he reviewed the engineering drawings for the deluxe steering wheels and found there was any difference at all between the wheels other than the paint.
I too suspect one of the wheels has been modified, either an original after production, or as a reproduction wheel with a modified design from stock.

jkflathead 09-16-2023 08:32 PM

Re: '38 and '39 Banjo Difference?
 

I wonder what the core of a standard '38 and '39 look like? The '37 is quite sever in its cone shape at the core. The one that I have that I think is the '38, is also cone shaped but not as sever. The flat one seems to make sense that it is a '39 because the design seemed to be going in that direction. I have studied the pictures in the V-8 Club book. And the tie bar is very similar. Is one of the tie bars noticeable different in size? Thanks for your help.

mercman from oz 09-16-2023 10:24 PM

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https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...p;d=1694921005

1938 Ford Deluxe Banjo Steering Wheel

Dak Rat 09-17-2023 06:54 AM

Re: '38 and '39 Banjo Difference?
 

I have had many '38 and '39 wheels, there was no difference between the two. The horn buttons are different of course.

38 coupe 09-17-2023 07:45 AM

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There is a difference that is so small almost noone notices it. The tie bars ends are more rounded on the 38 banjos and are more squared off on the 39 banjos.

ActionYobbo 09-17-2023 08:38 AM

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On the top picture It looks like the tie bar is out of position I can see the notch in the wire where it should be

Kube 09-17-2023 09:11 AM

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2 Attachment(s)
1939 deluxe

ford38v8 09-17-2023 10:10 AM

Re: '38 and '39 Banjo Difference?
 

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Originally Posted by 38 coupe (Post 2256119)
There is a difference that is so small almost noone notices it. The tie bars ends are more rounded on the 38 banjos and are more squared off on the 39 banjos.

Bingo!

38convsedan 09-17-2023 11:39 AM

Re: '38 and '39 Banjo Difference?
 

Does anyone have Oyster Gray paint info?

fordv8j 09-17-2023 04:42 PM

Re: '38 and '39 Banjo Difference?
 

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Originally Posted by Dak Rat (Post 2256093)
I have had many '38 and '39 wheels, there was no difference between the two. The horn buttons are different of course.

I think on the 39 banjo wheel the groove in the tie bars had red paint in them

mercman from oz 09-17-2023 06:12 PM

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https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...p;d=1694959899

1939 Ford Deluxe Banjo Steering Wheel - Kube

38 coupe 09-17-2023 06:26 PM

Re: '38 and '39 Banjo Difference?
 

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Originally Posted by 38convsedan (Post 2256167)
Does anyone have Oyster Gray paint info?

The Auto Color Library website at least recognizes the color exists. It appears to the the same information as the 38-39 book. Link here:https://www.autocolorlibrary.com/pag...HorizontalTab3

Kube 09-17-2023 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by fordv8j (Post 2256232)
I think on the 39 banjo wheel the groove in the tie bars had red paint in them

You are correct. The wheel I'd restored, once installed, did receive the red paint in the "bars".

mercman from oz 09-17-2023 11:11 PM

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https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...p;d=1695010209

1939 Ford Deluxe Banyo Steering Wheel and Dash - Kube

jkflathead 10-07-2023 08:00 AM

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I was wrong. This wheel that I have has had the bottom sliced off to fit another kind of column. Does anyone know why somebody would do that? And what kind of column does it now fit. Thanks. jk

42merc 10-07-2023 09:05 AM

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The wheel probably has been "sliced" to more closely match the cup on a '40 & later Ford column.
I have done this in the past.


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