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50droptop 06-10-2019 10:51 AM

1936 floorboard screws
 

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Does anyone know of a source for these screws and washers? They are for securing the wooden floorboard. They have the ends machined down to help alignment/starting. Also, they’re different from the wood floor support screws. I’ve checked McMaster with no luck. I’m one floorboard set short.

Bob C 06-10-2019 11:03 AM

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Maybe here. https://cgfordparts.com/ufolder/ford...hp?number=3141


https://www.bobdrake.com/FordItem.aspx?Item=3141

rustythumb 06-10-2019 12:34 PM

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bob is out of stock- what a shock!

Kerk 06-10-2019 01:18 PM

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Call Joe's Antique auto parts. Has them in stock! tel.#508 278-3980
Ux bridge Ma will ship same day! Kerk. Sorry do not have catalogwith the 800 Handy .. Kerk

50droptop 06-10-2019 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Kerk (Post 1766315)
Call Joe's Antique auto parts. Has them in stock! tel.#508 278-3980
Ux bridge Ma will ship same day! Kerk. Sorry do not have catalogwith the 800 Handy .. Kerk

I’ll give them a call in the morning.

Thanks again all for the info!!!

Ray in La Mesa 06-11-2019 12:29 PM

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They look the same as Model A screws, might try Model A suppliers.

DavidG 06-11-2019 05:00 PM

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Through '32 models they were 12-24 screws, starting with the '33s they were increased to 1/4-20.

TJ 06-12-2019 08:54 AM

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The 1/4X20s can be found at a local Ace Hardware store. They won't be the black finish, but they do the job and are hidden under the floor mat. Some Ace stores also carry the recessed washers.

deuce lover 06-12-2019 08:58 AM

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TJ is correct.Ace has them- zinc plated.

Brendan 06-15-2019 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by DavidG (Post 1766725)
Through '32 models they were 12-24 screws, starting with the '33s they were increased to 1/4-20.

my 36 pickup is 12-24

50droptop 06-16-2019 08:42 AM

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These are 1/4-20. I’m back home on Monday and will check out the local Ace Hardware. Also putting together an order for Joe’s Antique Auto....they’re on my list in case the Ace route falls through.

FrankWest 09-07-2019 01:31 PM

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are the correct screws flat heads or dome heads?

FrankWest 09-07-2019 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by TJ (Post 1766913)
The 1/4X20s can be found at a local Ace Hardware store. They won't be the black finish, but they do the job and are hidden under the floor mat. Some Ace stores also carry the recessed washers.

just a a dab of black flat paint.

50droptop 09-07-2019 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by FrankWest (Post 1796577)
are the correct screws flat heads or dome heads?

Mine were domed head.

FrankWest 09-07-2019 02:22 PM

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I should say oval head.
I was able to purchase slotted oval head counter sunk 1/4 20 stainless steel. on ebay.
Nice screws, but won't take gun bluing and have to paint. But that is ok, at least they look authentic. My car has mostly oval head, black, but need a few extra, car vendors only sell flat head? I think the originals are oval head? but maybe the manufacturer used flat head too? Don't know. Tried looking up in the green book, but still are looking. To bad they don;t have an index labeled Floor. Maybe I am getting too old?

Don Rogers 09-07-2019 05:10 PM

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The screws were flat head machine screws. When properly installed with counter sink washers they are flush with the floor.

DavidG 09-07-2019 06:48 PM

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I second Don's comments. Oval head screws make no sense as they would only create high spots on the floor mat which would lead to premature wear through.

RKS.PA 09-08-2019 03:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Don Rogers (Post 1796639)
The screws were flat head machine screws. When properly installed with counter sink washers they are flush with the floor.

Counter sink washers are essential to keep the wood from splitting under pressure. Made my own replacement set of boards.....easy and much cheaper than from Mac's. Used the old ones as patterns for my '39.

50droptop 09-08-2019 07:28 AM

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Just to clarify how my ‘36 was when I disassembled it. The screws that held the wooden floorboard supports were indeed flat head screws with counter sink washers. However, the screws that held the wooden floorboards (driver and passenger side) on either side of the transmission cover were oval head with countersunk washers. I don’t disagree that the oval head would sit up slightly higher under the front mat, and could possibly lead to premature wear, but this is how that car was assembled. Due to the similarities of these bolts to other Ford bolts (bottom threads smoothed to aid alignment-can be seen in the photo posted) and their consistent use on both floorboard sides; I have every reason to believe these are the original bolts Ford used in this application.

VeryTangled 09-08-2019 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by 50droptop (Post 1796748)
Just to clarify how my ‘36 was when I disassembled it... but this is how that car was assembled... I have every reason to believe these are the original bolts Ford used in this application.

Hi Everyone, This is gonna sound snarky, sorry.

50droptop, a person can believe what they choose.

For example I believe that with very few exceptions over eight decades every vehicle has been tampered with to deviate from the condition when it was originally assembled. Even on the absolutely most original car you can imagine, would you expect it to still have the oil drain plug washer from the factory? Maybe that's a bad example but it starts the thought process.

In the nine years I've been a member I've read many accounts here on FordBarn of owners believing that because something was on the car when they got it, it must have been on there from the moment it was built.

One real life example: I judged cars for originality/correctness at an event over ten years ago. A '35 Sedan owner, I'd guess about 70 years old who could trace the ownership of the vehicle from new within his family, had a lot of difficulty being told his steering wheel was not of the type that would have been on the car new. "Uncle would never have changed that." And "It's always been on there." Were his thoughts.

But I believe it's a physical impossibility for him to have knowledge of every incident in the time that passes from when the car was assembled to today.

Then again, the judges could have been wrong, or the car could have actually been assembled with pieces different than the typical example.

The bottom line is it's your car and to me that means you have every right to make it in a way that pleases you.

Adding: But Don Rogers and DavigG's information is literally good enough to bet the farm on. Those two have over 100 years combined experience with the vehicles. Each one has spent weeks researching the archives for the actual, factual, information.


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