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I’m fairly new to Model A’s, and I plan to look at a Victoria that is for sale in the next couple of days.

1) Is there such a thing as a 4 door Victoria?

2) Is the Victoria typically worth more than a Tudor? If so, by roughly how much?

3) What features does a Victoria have that are not found on a Tudor or Fordor?

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There is no such thing as a 4 door Victoria.

The Victoria was introduced in late 1930 as a 1931 Model. It was part of a group of "Deluxe" offerings to try to improve sales.

The Victoria had a slanted windshield and no visor. You sat lower in the car. The top of the roof was lower than the standard closed car models. The doors were wider for easy access to the rear seat area. The interior furnishings were all upgraded with wood grained dash and garnish moldings. The seat materials were upgraded and there was carpeting on the floors. They came equipped with cowl lamps as a standard feature. Victoria seats are more comfortable than Tudor seats.

These are just some of the features of the Victoria.

The Tudor was the entry level basic sedan. Ford made more Tudor's than any other body style. There is lots of room in the rear seat area of a Tudor. The Tudor body platform is basically all steel. Victoria's have wood in the body platform and also with the "soft Back" early Victoria's have a lot of wood in the rear portion of the body. Some times a car with a lot of wood can have issues with wood that needs to be replaced. Replacing the wood in a Victoria is much more difficult and expensive than with a Tudor.

Victoria's are popular and in the same condition usually will bring more money than a Tudor, how much more is difficult to know but some feel may be 50 to 100% more. The first Victoria's had a soft roof material that came down to the belt line below the rear window. Later the design was changed to a "steel back" roof design with a soft roof material insert only in the center part of the roof, similar to a 30-31 Fordor or coupe.

Which design is preferred is up to the individual but some feel the later "steel back" is a little more sought after.

My observations,

Chris W.

I like both body styles and have one of each.

OK, I will kick off & others can add.
1. For Model A's, there is no such 4dr Victoria.
2.Yes, worth more. You would have to check prices online in your area.
3. Victoria was a deluxe model & had cowl lamps, more plush interior than std. cars. First Model A with slanting windshield, low roof line, close coupled with bustle back rear panels, hence 'Victoria'. Less room in rear than a Tudor or Fordor? Does have small storage area behind the rear seat. Elegant styling . Cheers

Someone just beat me to it!

legroom in the front of a Vicki is very good!

great looking cars with good resale.

I believe the Victoria was built by Murray and is one of the wood sub-framed bodies. Carefully check the condition of the doors and wood sub-frame if it needs restoration.

Chris gives a great description :)

I'd just add that a Victoria has an adjustable (fore and aft) driver's seat. This feature was also standard on the Deluxe 1931 Tudor, but very few of those were made.

For the best place to find out about Victoria's is The International Model A Ford Victoria Association . The have a news letter that comes out quarterly that will fill a couple of notebooks of previous newsletters, that have so much needed information on the restoration your car. They also have available a couple of note books that have many illustration's and drawings that offer
a ton of needed information as well. Check out there website, you will not regret it.
Bob

Thanks everyone for the feedback. I went to see the car over the weekend, and I plan to buy it tomorrow.

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Please post some photos of your new Victoria, Bill

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Originally Posted by Bill Cal. (Post 1790084)

Please post some photos of your new Victoria, Bill

Definitely,

We need PICTURES!!!!

I think the Victoria is a very interesting body style.

Congratulations!

Chris W.

Join the International Victoria Association and I will put your 190A into the record of survivors. Currently there are 518 190As in the record.

Congratulations Victoria’s are the best looking Model a ford IMO.

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Join the International Victoria Association and I will put your 190A into the record of survivors. Currently there are 518 190As in the record.

Thanks, I didn’t know about this. I’m heading work now, but I hope to check it out later.

http://www.victoriaassociation.org/

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Originally Posted by CWPASADENA (Post 1790251)

Definitely,

We need PICTURES!!!!

I’ll try to take some this weekend.

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Nice looking Victoria.
It looks like the previous owner added a late 1931 steering column support, which is a good thing. Please make sure that he removed the rubber anti rattler on the gas tank support. This keeps the steering column from binding between the two supports.

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Originally Posted by hop up (Post 1790580)

Congratulations Victoria’s are the best looking Model a ford IMO.

Funny how poeple's preferences vary! Both my wife and dislike the Vicky. For that reason, it probably just as well I've only ever seen one or two over here. That is because no Fords arrived here in 1931 so the few that are about are far more recent (within the last 10 years) private imports.

Very Nice!!!!

It looks like you got a very nice car!!!

Enjoy

Chris W.

She's a beauty. You bought well.

NIce, one of my favorites in my favorite colours. JP