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artron9 08-15-2019 02:39 PM

cleaned fuel bowl=no start?
 

After having issues with my 52 v8 jets, i moved on to cleaning the glass fuel bowl on my fuel pump. Lots of debris on the bottom. After cleaning and making sure I set the glass correctly onto the gasket and secured the bracket, I proceeded to start the car. Engined turned strong but did not fire up. This has happened before and I had to call AAA to get it to the shop. Can't figure out how to get this to work? Did a lot of forum searching but still have not found the solution! The pump was working fine before I removed the glass! All the lines seem to be secure and in good condition. I primed the bowl with fuel, and filled the float bowl with fuel. What else?

JSeery 08-15-2019 02:45 PM

Re: cleaned fuel bowl=no start?
 

If you can squirt fuel into the intake and it won't fire sounds like an electrical issue. See if it will fire with squirting fuel directly into the carburetor and see if it will attempt to start (fire). If so the ignition is most likely ok and there is an air leak somewhere in the connections.

artron9 08-15-2019 02:53 PM

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JSeery, It will fire up til that fuel from the carb is used up! Fuel is not being sucked up from the bowl? Problem is that it was fine prior to my bowl cleaning. Pump has recently been rebuilt by one of the best!

JSeery 08-15-2019 02:58 PM

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Well, that narrows it down a bunch. The glass bowl is not sealing to the gasket or something else was disturbed that is allowing a air leak into the fuel line. Sometimes a bit of a help priming the lines can help. Apply a slight amount of pressure to the fuel fill at the tank to push fuel up to the glass bowl/pump. If that doesn't help, there about has to be an air leak somewhere.

petehoovie 08-15-2019 03:03 PM

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Be sure to use a cork gasket on the bowl as opposed to neoprene....

artron9 08-15-2019 03:13 PM

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I am using cork. How about a vacuum attached to the air horn on the carb?

51 MERC-CT 08-15-2019 03:36 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by artron9 (Post 1788331)
JSeery, It will fire up til that fuel from the carb is used up! Fuel is not being sucked up from the bowl? Problem is that it was fine prior to my bowl cleaning. Pump has recently been rebuilt by one of the best!

Fuel does not get sucked up from the bowl, it is sucked up from the tank and pushed to the carb.
Check to make sure that the cork gasket is not cracked, as no amount of tightening will seal it from sucking air.

oldford2 08-15-2019 04:30 PM

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Sounds like you found your problem "lots of debris in the bowl. So, your jets may be clogged again. Only takes a piece the size of fly sh#t to do it. You definitely need a filter before the pump. Look in the bottom of your carb bowl also.
john

artron9 08-15-2019 05:52 PM

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You guys were right on! Cork gasket was creased preventing a perfect seal! My bad! Sure felt like it was on right? Only had a neoprene gasket so i had to use that for now. Most of you prefer the cork gasket? Thanks for all your great advice!

MGG 08-17-2019 07:41 PM

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x3 on the cork gasket. I have had much better results against leaking than with the neoprene ones.

Tinker 08-17-2019 08:06 PM

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I usual fill the bowl with fresh fuel 3/4 the way. Always starts. With a new gasket remember to revisit it and tighten. Cork.

FortyNiner 08-17-2019 08:39 PM

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So the debris in the bowl came from somewhere. Until you eliminate the source, you'll still have the issue - cork or no cork.

Tinker 08-17-2019 08:48 PM

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The glass bowl is there only to filter debris. Certainly it could get by and clog a jet as debris are really small. I replaced the lines with copper and a new tank from a vendor. I get a few chips in the bowl. It's not coming from the copper lines. Hasn't effected my carb to my knowledge yet but I do clean out the bowl trap.

Put a small earth magnate on the bottom of the bowl till you figure it out maybe. Not sure if it will stick real well on the outside, but you could probably just throw it in the bowl. Not a lot of pressure that would suck it up to the top of the sediment bowl as it's just siphoning fuel. There is a screen anyway.




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RobR'35 08-18-2019 10:01 AM

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U can also put a small round paper cartridge type filter in the sediment bowl with a spring under it.
Napa gold 3039. They work great!

Kerk 08-18-2019 12:42 PM

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The only way to use a vacuum might be on the pressure side to blow into the fuel tank with a rag tohelp seall it! Should probably have 2 people. CAUTION !! Using a vacuum cleaner on the vacuum side could lead to a FIRE !! jmho

supereal 08-18-2019 02:17 PM

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Cork hardens over time and will not seal correctly when the bowl is removed and replaced. When cleaning the bowl, always have a new gasket available. At our shop we do not reuse gaskets of any type. They seal by compressing the material in all applications and are used only once, whether head gaskets or other applications.

tubman 08-18-2019 03:52 PM

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I'm with all of the others. Cork Gaskets just plain work better than neoprene. All logic tells me it should be the other way around, but experience counts. Also agree with "supereal" about not re-using them.

Bill OH 08-18-2019 04:13 PM

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I use neoprene gasket - cork is not reliable. Learned from a farm tractor.

chap52 08-19-2019 07:43 AM

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Coating cork gaskets with a very light rub of bearing grease helps to keep the pliable. My latest trick is on low temp area gaskets I spray them with cooking spray. Chap

Fredo 10-08-2022 09:45 PM

Re: cleaned fuel bowl=no start?
 

On my 1950 V8 F1 I’ve had the same issue. I’ve replaced the fuel pump and rebuilt the carb. It will start and run well for days but then will start but die. Dribbling gas in the carb gets it started but it dies again. So I drain a little fuel from the tank, clean the rust flakes out of the glass bowl , fill the bowl and it starts and runs strong again.
I’m guessing I need a new fuel tank, always have debris in the glass bowl.


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