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GAR64 04-29-2016 04:11 PM

Brake light
 

Brake light not working. Tail light works. So what do I check first after the bulb, which I already replaced.

CarlG 04-29-2016 04:19 PM

Re: Brake light
 

Check to make sure you have power going into the brake light switch. If you have power there, apply the brakes and see if you then have power on the "out" side of the switch. If everything is OK so far, keep going downstream till you find no power. Also could be the ground inside the tail light fixture.

Franchise_24 04-29-2016 05:10 PM

Re: Brake light
 

Check the brake light switch for sure, they can go bad. Mine quit last year on my 28, and the hook had just come off the brake pedal. Easy fix :-)

700rpm 04-29-2016 05:15 PM

Re: Brake light
 

If your light is connected to the wiring harness with apigtail, check the juncture f the two wires. Mine came undone just last week.

Marshall V. Daut 04-29-2016 05:31 PM

Re: Brake light
 

Just run a jumper wire with alligator clips from one terminal to the other on the stoplight switch. That will turn on the stop light if the bulb is good. If that doesn't do it, replace the bulb and check the wiring from the stoplight switch to the taillight.
Marshall

Mitch//pa 04-29-2016 06:14 PM

Re: Brake light
 

And if that doesn't do it may sure power is getting to the stop light switch

GAR64 04-29-2016 08:03 PM

Re: Brake light
 

Thanks. Where exactly is the brake light switch?

CarlG 04-29-2016 08:04 PM

Re: Brake light
 

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Originally Posted by CarlG (Post 1286158)
Check to make sure you have power going into the brake light switch. ...

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Originally Posted by Mitch//pa (Post 1286224)
And if that doesn't do it may sure power is getting to the stop light switch

Brilliant minds think alike! :D

Tom Wesenberg 04-29-2016 09:24 PM

Re: Brake light
 

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Originally Posted by GAR64 (Post 1286287)
Thanks. Where exactly is the brake light switch?

28-9 is bolted to the left side of the tranny top.
30-1 is bolted to the crossmember near the rear of the battery.

Mitch//pa 04-30-2016 02:19 AM

Re: Brake light
 

A 2.00 test light is your friend and all you need to figure this out easily

GAR64 04-30-2016 09:05 AM

Re: Brake light
 

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Thanks for the info. No power at the stop light switch. Looks like power comes from the headlight switch to the stop light switch. Jiggling the wire at the headlight switch caused a flicker of the brake light. Guess I gotta go into that headlight switch and rewire. Already had trouble with it before. The bail kept coming off. Probably should replace the entire thing.

Tom Endy 04-30-2016 11:52 AM

Re: Brake light
 

A worthwhile modification is to remove the lead on the stoplight switch that comes from the light bail and replace it with a wire going directly to the fuse. If you do not have a fuse attach it to one of the terminals on the fire wall. There is no reason for the brake light power to be routed through the light bail.

With this modification if you are ever out on the road and a short circuit occurs in the light bail you can remove power going to it by disconnecting the wire that runs from the cut-out (or alternator) to the bail without affecting the brake light circuit.

Your headlights and tail lights will be inoperative, but You will be able to drive the car during daylight and still have brake lights.

Tom Endy

GAR64 04-30-2016 01:23 PM

Re: Brake light
 

Since my headlights and tail lights work, I am guessing that there is just a bad connection inside the light bail. There are two wires together entering the bail, separate from the larger ones which go forward to the headlights. One of the two must be the brake light and the other the tail light????

Mitch//pa 04-30-2016 01:31 PM

Re: Brake light
 

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CarlG 04-30-2016 01:39 PM

Re: Brake light
 

In Mitch's diagram above, what Tom is suggesting is to take the green wire that goes from the stoplight switch to the light switch. Re-route it or replace it and connect it to the yellow wire on the starting switch or the junction box.

Tom Endy 04-30-2016 02:26 PM

Re: Brake light
 

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Originally Posted by CarlG (Post 1286618)
In Mitch's diagram above, what Tom is suggesting is to take the green wire that goes from the stoplight switch to the light switch. Re-route it or replace it and connect it to the yellow wire on the starting switch or the junction box.

If you look closely at the drawing you will see that battery power originates at the starter switch, goes to the terminal lugs on the fire wall, and then out to the cut-out (heavy black & yellow wire, sometimes called "the house wire)". From there a wire runs to the light bail and connects to a battery buss inside the bail, labeled "bat.". From there a green wire runs out to the brake light switch. There is no need for the brake light switch power connection being picked up inside the light bail. The only reason is Henry may have been trying to save wire. A simple connection to the brake light switch from direct battery power would be much simpler and not be involved with the light bail that is prone to failure.

Tom Endy

Tom Wesenberg 04-30-2016 04:56 PM

Re: Brake light
 

I was thinking the same as Tom, but the only drawback would be if the brake light stuck on it wouldn't show in the ammeter. I also look at the ammeter once in a while when I touch the brake to make sure it draws power. On my 28, the original FORD script wrinkle brake bulb burned out about 5 years ago.

Mitch//pa 04-30-2016 06:02 PM

Re: Brake light
 

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Originally Posted by Tom Wesenberg (Post 1286697)
I was thinking the same as Tom, but the only drawback would be if the brake light stuck on it wouldn't show in the ammeter. I also look at the ammeter once in a while when I touch the brake to make sure it draws power. On my 28, the original FORD script wrinkle brake bulb burned out about 5 years ago.

I always do that also to make sure the bulb is working... I would leave it wired as is and not modify it

Manager 04-30-2016 06:21 PM

Re: Brake light
 

Or connect it somewhere on the load side of the ammeter.The yellow/black wire.


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