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Woodie1 05-20-2013 07:14 PM

Loss of power 7 back fire
 

We went to MAFFI Saturday morning. The drive down was great, coming home not so good. After about 40 miles into the trip home the A started loossing power every now & then & eventually would back fire. It did this for the rest of the 80 miles home. I took the carb apart tonight but didn't find anything plugging the jets. I did open the points a little but I don't think this was the problem. We went to MAFFI last September & had the same problem. I did notice that when I shut the gas off & close the gas adjusting needle that it took a good 2 minutes for the engine to quit. This seems like a long time. What are your thoughts on this problem? Thanks.

Dave Mc 05-20-2013 09:22 PM

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I would be checking electrical connections and start with the battery,clean the cable connections at both ends of each cable and proceed from there until you find something loose or corroded

H. L. Chauvin 05-20-2013 10:46 PM

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On a long trip, if carburetor is clean, sounds like fuel is well filtered from the fire wall sediment bowl to carburetor; however, also on a long trip it is possible that some deleterious material of some sort is in the gas tank, (such as rust or crud), that may possibly be collecting around the gas tank drain & impeding the flow of gas through gas shut off valve to the sediment bowl.

Are there a few more gas related details of what helped to get home; e.g., opened GAV valve, pulled choke slightly to provide more fuel?

If altering gas mixture helped, appears fuel related.

If fuel adjustments did not help & were left alone, & engine got better on its own, possible electrical problem, & more often corrosion on connections as Dave stated in above reply #2.

More of one's trip's mechanical details always lead to more meaningful help on what to check.

Richard Wilson 05-21-2013 05:29 AM

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A common source of back firing is an air leak around the exhaust/intake manifold gasket. Easy to check.

Tom Wesenberg 05-21-2013 05:36 AM

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I had lots of backfiring when my repro ignition switch had loose contacts. It had such poor contacts that the key fob swinging back and forth would make the switch cut out.

See how far the key turns before the ignition is open. If you barely turn the key to kill the engine, I'd fix or replace the switch.

Patrick L. 05-21-2013 07:02 AM

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When losing power and starting to back-fire, did reducing the power help? If so, I wonder if the fuel tank is not venting properly.

Mitch//pa 05-21-2013 07:12 AM

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all great suggestions and what tom mentioned i have seen many times..
also if your running a dreaded wireless lower plate it can give you an int and weak spark /backfire
try replacing condenser

Woodie1 05-21-2013 02:26 PM

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In years past if I had this problem, opening the gas valve would help some. In this case it didn't seem to help. The lower plate is the original type with the wire. If I let up on the gas pedal it did seem to help to some degree. I have the stand pipe filter in the shut off & the tank was almost full of gas so it shouldn't have been something plugging the gas flow. I did not make any adjustments to the carb during the time it was back firing. It was back firing all the way home but sometimes the pause was longer. We might get 5 miles before it would do it again.

JBill 05-21-2013 02:45 PM

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I'm shocked (!) that nobody has suggested a condensor going bad.

Patrick L. 05-21-2013 03:01 PM

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But, you haven't tried opening the gas cap or checking the to make sure the vent is clear ?

Jason in TX 05-21-2013 03:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JBill (Post 655738)
I'm shocked (!) that nobody has suggested a condensor going bad.

...x2

tudoor 05-21-2013 05:15 PM

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Condenser, change it. It happened to me, thought it was gas related but it finely quit on me. And that was it. I always carry two with me.

Tom Wesenberg 05-21-2013 06:26 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JBill (Post 655738)
I'm shocked (!) that nobody has suggested a condensor going bad.

X3 :D

Usually that's the solution for any problem.:p

H. L. Chauvin 05-22-2013 12:51 AM

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One (1) spark plug not firing now & then, (intermittent fire), is just one cause of backfire.

For example, knew a show-off teenager with an almost perfect Model AA truck who used to always turn the switch off & quickly turn it back on to "make" it backfire.

In this case, unburned fuel mixture is pumped into the exhaust manifold & when this fuel mixture is later ignited in the exhaust manifold, it caused the backfire.

The "Rest of the Story" with his backfiring truck & a murder case is just too long to mention.

Tom Wesenberg 05-22-2013 07:18 AM

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"For example, knew a show-off teenager with an almost perfect Model AA truck who used to always turn the switch off & quickly turn it back on to "make" it backfire."

I did that with my 55 Chevy when I was in high school. :D:eek:
After a few loud explosions I blew out the muffler. This wasn't a smart thing to do, like I thought it was.:mad:

1931 flamingo 05-22-2013 07:27 AM

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Maybe ttry replacing the plugs??
Paul in CT

luckyal 05-22-2013 07:36 AM

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I had exactly the condition described and it was a poorly vented gas cap. Replaced cap and problem disappeared immediately.
Al

CarlG 05-22-2013 05:01 PM

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Check the coil. Diagnostics with a "cold" coil don't count. Just replace it with a known good coil and see if that doesn't fix the problem.


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