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Charlie ny 05-01-2021 12:31 AM

L-100 & 9" clutch
 

Thanks to 'Scott' my '32 pickup is back on the road. We pulled the motor...before the covid crisis in the family (everyone back home now)...to
have Moriarty install the L-100 cam from KIWI Tony Price and switch
the clutch to a new Van Pelt 9". The cam is so much more than I could have wished for.........the idle every flathead guy dreams of, very decent low end and pulls hard all the way up. I could go on and on, I'm a happy man.
Lincoln springs from 3rd Gen and European adjustables from Van Pelt

( looked and felt like Johnsons )
9" clutch from Van Pelt so smooth but a solid pedal & 3/5's the weight of
the 10" .
Charlie ny

Yoyodyne 05-01-2021 03:03 AM

Re: L-100 & 9" clutch
 

Good info. What CI is your engine?

KiWinUS 05-01-2021 04:51 AM

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Thrilled that your such a happy man Charlie. With all the great work you do for so many putting a smile on their faces it is great the we could return the gesture. Cheers.

Charlie ny 05-01-2021 06:18 AM

Re: L-100 & 9" clutch
 

ref #2.....'49 Merc 286 cu in, EAB heads min clearance.
Charlie

Ol' Ron 05-01-2021 08:33 AM

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Back in 87, I was working in a body shop fixing rusty Vermont cars, when a fellow came in as asked if anyone could build a flathead. I raised my hand, and thus started a new life.

That Saturday I went to his shop and looked at his parts. Kong heads with the spark plugs so far up the heads, I was suppressed to see they were still in the combustion chamber. And a cam made for Bonneville Intake was 245 at .03" lift. Then he showed me what it was going in. A 1942 Ford ambulance. (5500lbs)

I tried to explain to him that the cam wouldn't work and the head had 4 to 1 CR at most. He said , "It\s all paid for, so that what we use."

The 276?? went together with only a few problems. Couldn't use the copper head gaskets as they leaked like a sive. Had to us some plastic ones he had.

The original intake and dist ributor wer bolted up and off we went to York PA. Engine sounded like a Hemi and wegot 18 MPG cruised along at 70 plus, and I fell in love with the L-100
I knew David Generous personaly. He had a shop in Milford Ct and I was living in Stratford CT. He was building engines for the Datsum race team with another fellow and grinding cams. This was his flathead cam.
After I opened up Nostalgia engines, it was my standard cam, unless the customer wanted something else. I sen David dozens of stock cams so he had allot of cores

I often wondered if the L-100 would had ever got off the ground, if it wasn't for GEORGE asking me to build him an engine. I still don't have any Idea why it works so good.
Gramps

russcc 05-01-2021 07:14 PM

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That's because Julius and Caesar Litterio were ingenious cam grinders, and the L-100 was developed from years of racing experience in stock cars on short tracks. There was a well worn path beaten to their door in Providence RI by local stock car racers.

KiWinUS 05-01-2021 07:21 PM

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The brothers also had the “patented” for the “dial bore gauge as we know it today. Very Sharp men.

Ol' Ron 05-01-2021 07:49 PM

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Yes, David told me the whole story. I have a list of all the cams they designed for the Ford engines. One cam L-94 , I used in the 258 Hydro engine amd that went into the history books.

outsider347 05-19-2021 06:33 PM

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New here
Wondering where the L 100 is available to purchase?

outsider347 05-19-2021 06:49 PM

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Tried to send a PM to KiWinUS but I have not yet met the required post count
So. The PM below

Hello, New guy guy here. Wondering about the L 100 cam that I am reading so much about here

I suppose that I should tell you about what I have, to see if the 100 will be appreciate foe me

I have a 40 Tudor with the original(tired ) engine.
I see a rebuild perhaps this winter
The engine is all stock so I guess a pretty clean slate

I'dlike for it to be a dependable DD , modified slightly like a guy in the 50-60s would doo it

Dual 94s, dual exhaust

Your suggestions appreciated

tubman 05-19-2021 07:01 PM

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"outside347" - Make sure that you look into the information posted here on optimizing quench in the heads. It is done by milling the heads to the minimum clearance and then custom fitting them to the piston tops. In my opinion, it is the single most effective thing that can be done to a flathead to increase efficient combustion. Efficiency adds BOTH economy and power.

Other than that, increasing displacement is a good way of increasing power. It is expensive, and a little more difficult with the early 221 ci engines.

At the very least, you can respond to this post and up your post count which will get you closer to the 10 posts you need to be a "real" member.:)

outsider347 05-19-2021 07:10 PM

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Tks tubman. Makes sense Much to learn
Would you suggestion require new pistons?

tubman 05-19-2021 08:00 PM

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The configuration of the tops of your existing pistons is probably fine. The problem with reusing the originals is more a matter of wear and age.

In my experience, count on replacing them.

KiWinUS 05-20-2021 11:12 AM

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Outsider I sent you a pm but if you can’t answer it email me at
[email protected]
Cheers
Tony

outsider347 05-20-2021 04:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by KiWinUS (Post 2018434)
Outsider I sent you a pm but if you can’t answer it email me at
[email protected]
Cheers
Tony

Tks Tony
E Mail sent

slowspoke 05-21-2021 04:51 PM

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whew! Love this post!

30Dean 11-28-2021 11:26 AM

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I can’t pm you as I don’t have 10 posts yet. Im interested in the L-100 cam. Do you still grind them. If yes, would I need to send my stock cam to you?

Thank you.
Dean Ellis

KiWinUS 11-28-2021 11:29 AM

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G’day Dean.Yes still grinding the KiWi-L100. Email me @
[email protected]
I can help you out. Cheers
Tony

cas3 11-28-2021 11:37 AM

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Charlie, did you use the stock 9" pressure plate, or heavier springs to make it hold ?

Ol' Ron 11-28-2021 02:03 PM

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I don't thik the L-100 would work very well in a stock displacement engine in a heavy car. Torque i
s what moves the car and the long duration of the cam reduces the lowend torque. By boring and stroking the engine you increas the lowend torwue and the head work increases the CR as well. Planing an engine build you must consider the application. remember, a "Street engine " spends 90% of it's time in cruise!!!
Gramps


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