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RalphM 05-16-2020 11:23 PM

King pin removal, the hard way!
 

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So I picked up a late 30’s front axle with round back spindles. Wishbones had been cut/welded and are pretty much junk, but the axle(I have about 10 of these) and the spindles are in good shape.
One of the kingpins was about 1/2 way out, I thought it would be the “easy” side.
Boy was I wrong, it wouldn’t budge, even with heat and an air hammer. So I backed it up a bit and cut the end off, and my suspicions were correct. The diameter of the pin was .813, and there was no way the thing was going through the axle after it had been mushroomed out to a whopping .836 diameter!

nickthebandit 05-17-2020 08:58 AM

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Several years ago, after spending all day getting the spindles off of 5 axle assemblies, and beating up my hands, wrists, and arms, I felt there must be an easier way. The next axle assemblies that I needed to dis-assemble, I took them to Super Spring shop. They specialize in big truck work. They charged me $ 20.00 to dis-assemble a complete front end. It is well worth the price. It saves time energy and abuse of my body.

RalphM 05-17-2020 09:14 AM

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Well I haven’t even attempted the perch pins yet. I thought I would try making a “puller” of some sort for those like Andy did here on the Barn.
But I can tell you, if I found someone to do all this for $20, I’d bring them a truckload of them!

cas3 05-17-2020 10:32 AM

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the civilized way is to use a big press. hammers and air hammers just wreck stuff. you get very creative when setting the whole axle and wish bone in the bed of the press to get it sitting level and secure, takes two people really. blocks and boards, what ever it takes. i have a big piece of heavy wall pipe cut and ground to the right angle to support the axle and keep the king pins or perch pins vertical for pressing.

Kube 05-17-2020 12:55 PM

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I am so glad I have this tool. Even the most stubborn pins come out rather easily...

cas3 05-17-2020 01:32 PM

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boy, that looks like a nice tool. gonna have to make one ...someday.

bobH 05-17-2020 02:45 PM

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For us 'youngsters', newcomers, please explain what that tool is, and what it is supposed to do. Thank you.

cas3 05-17-2020 02:50 PM

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looks like it would bolt onto the 4 backing plate holes on the spindle and has a fine thread screw to press out the king pin. great idea, could be done on the car then

Kube 05-17-2020 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by cas3 (Post 1888738)
looks like it would bolt onto the 4 backing plate holes on the spindle and has a fine thread screw to press out the king pin. great idea, could be done on the car then

That's exactly how this works. It's a vintage K R Wilson tool, specifically designed for Ford passenger cars and light commercial vehicles.

I've used another I have NUMEROUS times and do not recall having an issue with any removals.
Prior to having this tool, I do recall some swearing going on, sore hands and wrists...

RalphM 05-18-2020 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Kube (Post 1888687)
I am so glad I have this tool. Even the most stubborn pins come out rather easily...

Mike,
You always have the coolest early Ford tools!

Tinker 05-18-2020 01:08 AM

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hammering something always works. ;)

GB SISSON 05-19-2020 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Kube (Post 1888687)
I am so glad I have this tool. Even the most stubborn pins come out rather easily...

That is a real treasure. A thing of beauty!

uncle buck 05-20-2020 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Kube (Post 1888687)
I am so glad I have this tool. Even the most stubborn pins come out rather easily...



Very cool, I've never seen one of those. Can you post a picture of the other side?

V8COOPMAN 05-20-2020 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by uncle buck (Post 1889801)
Very cool, I've never seen one of those. Can you post a picture of the other side?


The other side, and the whole deal explained! If you can believe it, ALL 4 red pieces were for sale in the 'Barn "Swap" section in 2012 for $150! DD


https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...2&d=1339716829


https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...2&d=1276282084






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FL&WVMIKE 05-20-2020 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by RalphM (Post 1888561)
Well I haven’t even attempted the perch pins yet. I thought I would try making a “puller” of some sort for those like Andy did here on the Barn.
But I can tell you, if I found someone to do all this for $20, I’d bring them a truckload of them!

Yea, they have tool like this to work with. Very simple, and highly effective!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvR12q9yclE

Kube 05-20-2020 11:31 AM

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The king pin tool in your photo appears to be for BIG trucks. Not a huge desire for that tool.
Still, $250 for the set was a deal even eight years ago.

V8COOPMAN 05-20-2020 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Kube (Post 1889850)
The king pin tool in your photo appears to be for BIG trucks. Not a huge desire for that tool.
Still, $250 for the set was a deal even eight years ago.


NO, no.....that was $150.00! Click the link below! DD


https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showt...ng+pin+remover

Kube 05-20-2020 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by V8COOPMAN (Post 1889878)
NO, no.....that was $150.00! Click the link below! DD


https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showt...ng+pin+remover

My oversight. $150 was giving that stuff away.

Tim Ayers 05-21-2020 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by V8COOPMAN (Post 1889878)
NO, no.....that was $150.00! Click the link below! DD


https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showt...ng+pin+remover

Haha. I noticed I was on that post as well.

My dad has Snap On king pin remover that has not failed us yet. Hook it up to a 1/2” impact and seconds later they are out.

V8COOPMAN 05-21-2020 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Tim Ayers (Post 1890122)
Haha. I noticed I was on that post as well.

My dad has Snap On king pin remover that has not failed us yet. Hook it up to a 1/2” impact and seconds later they are out.


Saw that you JUST missed that one. Here's the Snap-On! Click the link for more detail! DD


http://www.philosopherswrench.com/20...l-of-week.html


http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-g2PE3WIYfc...0/100_6927.JPG


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