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Tom Wesenberg 10-15-2010 08:14 AM

Meaning of CHANGE vs. UPGRADE
 

Well folks, I'm not an English teacher, but there still seems to be some confusion about the meanings of CHANGE and UPGRADE.

Removing mechanical brakes and installing juice brakes is CHANGE.

Going from an outhouse to an indoor toilet is an UPGRADE! :)

RockHillWill 10-15-2010 08:15 AM

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I'm laughing my ass off!

5window 10-15-2010 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom Wesenberg (Post 97250)
Well folks, I'm not an English teacher, but there still seems to be some confusion about the meanings of CHANGE and UPGRADE.

Removing mechanical brakes and installing juice brakes is CHANGE.

Going from an outhouse to an indoor toilet is an UPGRADE! :)

Got to disagree. Substituting one similar part to another is change-ie one Model A motor for another is changing the motor. Putting a 302 in place of a Model A motor is an upgrade.

FWIT, I have been in some very nice outhouses-oak floors,heated, lights-and some pretty rancid bathrooms with indoor plumbing.

HoarseWhisperer 10-15-2010 08:46 AM

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Is altering an outhouse from a one-holer to a two-holer considered a change or an upgrade?

Mitch//pa 10-15-2010 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by HoarseWhisperer (Post 97273)
Is altering an outhouse from a one-holer to a two-holer considered a change or an upgrade?


it depends if the holes connect at the bottom:D

Benson 10-15-2010 09:05 AM

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Going from a Vietnam style outhouse, with carved wooden seats with splinters, complete with 55 gallon drums cut off a foot high and having to remove the cans, pour diesel oil in and burn the "stuff" to ANY OTHER KIND of S house ... NOW THAT IS an upgrade !!!

That is why SOME folks in the theater laugh when watching the Platoon movie when the sunset comes up and there are columns of black smoke rising up through the beautiful sunset. Other folks in theater say "What are they laughing at?"

Then the scene cuts to some guys burning the "stuff" ... "What are those guys doing?"

The background music is Louis Armstrong singing "What a Wonderful World".

Unless of course you are an E5 or above and do not have to burn the "stuff".

It is all a matter of how you look at it!!! :eek:

RVN class of 1968

zzlegend 10-15-2010 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by HoarseWhisperer (Post 97273)
Is altering an outhouse from a one-holer to a two-holer considered a change or an upgrade?

I think neither. I think that is called "double dipping".

Special Coupe Frank 10-15-2010 10:11 AM

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Any change is "change".... if it has a positive out-come, then it could be considered an "upgrade".

In terms of antique cars, if a change improves the driveability / safety / enjoyability of the vehicle, without irreversibly altering the vehicle, that would be an upgrade, in my humble opinion.

One of my other antiques is a '41 De Soto sedan. It has a stump-puller 4.11 rear, and is screaming at 60 MPH. Over the years, I have acquired an overdrive transmission from a 1940 De Soto, and all the controls to go with, and plan to install it in my car for better highway driveability. Everything will be a "bolt-in" proceedure, the original parts will be retained, and if, down the road, myself or a subsequent owner wants to put it back to factory stock condition, it will be possible to do so.
This qualifies as an "upgrade" in my mind.

Dropping a 302 or SBC into a Model A is more along the lines of "desecration" in my mind; perhaps tolerable if the car itself is not irrevocably modified....

Your results may vary...

RockHillWill 10-15-2010 12:59 PM

Re: Thank you Benson
 

Mr. Benson, I want to personally thank you for your service to our country!

Fred 10-15-2010 01:33 PM

Re: Thank you Benson
 

Mr Benson, I too have Been there & done that !!.. 1965 MCB #9 DA NANG E-4.. 1967 & 1969 E-5 DA NANG & HUE, just used them...P.S. NO splinters, we built them !!...

Rainmaker Ron 10-15-2010 01:42 PM

Re: Meaning of CHANGE vs. UPGRADE
 

What you do to your car improves the appearance, the value, the safety, the performance, the reliability and is an upgrade. What I do to my car destroys the very character of the Model A and is an unneeded, unpopular and unamerican change!
Rainmaker Ron

V4F 10-15-2010 01:46 PM

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Going away from a Vietnam style outhouse

boy i hear ya ............ '67-'68 ...................... steve

Ross/Kzoo 10-15-2010 02:29 PM

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Two Story Outhouse


Words fail me! This picture is worth 10,000 of them.










http://65.55.72.71/att/GetInline.asp...9b7&oneredir=1

Yep!!! This pretty much says it all.




Needs no additional comments!!!

(Hope this doesn't qualify as political!)

TomW 10-15-2010 03:09 PM

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All upgrades are changes, but not all changes are upgrades!?

Louis 10-15-2010 03:20 PM

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[QUOTE=Benson;97281]Going away from a Vietnam style outhouse, with carved wooden seats with splinters, complete with 55 gallon drums cut off a foot high and having to remove the cans, pour diesel oil in and burn the "stuff" to ANY OTHER KIND of S house ... NOW THAT IS an upgrade !!!

You had "Carved Wooden Seats" and "saw'd off 55 gal. drums":eek: ?
Benson, sounds like you had it made ;).

Ross/Kzoo 10-15-2010 03:21 PM

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J Franklin 10-15-2010 03:31 PM

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I saw a real functional two story outhouse in Nevada City Montana. I think it had a bit of offset!

Bruce Adams 10-15-2010 03:49 PM

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EVERY MORNING I thank God for me enjoying the hot water in my shower, and other stuff, thinking of Korea.

Chris in WNC 10-15-2010 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by HoarseWhisperer (Post 97273)
Is altering an outhouse from a one-holer to a two-holer considered a change or an upgrade?

sounds like an invasion of privacy.

I'm a very sociable person, but some things you just gotta do by yourself!

P.S.
and to ALL the Viet Nam boys, THANK YOU for your service!
(E-4 1970-72, but never left the eastern US)

Benson 10-15-2010 05:46 PM

Re: Meaning of CHANGE vs. UPGRADE
 

Classic !!!



Upper one is enlisted and lower is officers' ??








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Originally Posted by Ross/Kzoo (Post 97446)
Two Story Outhouse


Words fail me! This picture is worth 10,000 of them.









http://65.55.72.71/att/GetInline.asp...9b7&oneredir=1
Yep!!! This pretty much says it all.




Needs no additional comments!!!

(Hope this doesn't qualify as political!)



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