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flathead48 11-14-2020 01:21 PM

Hole saw
 

Are the special hole saw used to drill around studs still available any place. I was told they were made special for this purpose. I am working on 59A engine. Thanks.

Bob C 11-14-2020 02:34 PM

Re: Hole saw
 

Here's a couple of links. http://www.fordgarage.com/pages/swaging.htm


https://goodson.com/products/swedge-tools


I just use a 5/8" hole saw. Be careful if you are going to reuse the drums.

51 MERC-CT 11-14-2020 02:41 PM

Re: Hole saw
 

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob C (Post 1952047)
Here's a couple of links. http://www.fordgarage.com/pages/swaging.htm


https://goodson.com/products/swedge-tools


I just use a 5/8" hole saw. Be careful if you are going to reuse the drums.

Think you are confused, I thought it was for head studs, not wheel studs.

flathead48 11-14-2020 03:32 PM

Re: Hole saw
 

Thanks guys I am working on removing heads from a 59A block and wanted to cut around the head studs, sorry for not explaining myself better.

1ton 11-14-2020 03:55 PM

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Well there's always a first time for everything.

34PKUP 11-14-2020 05:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by flathead48 (Post 1952069)
Thanks guys I am working on removing heads from a 59A block and wanted to cut around the head studs, sorry for not explaining myself better.

Ya'got nothing to be sorry about, it was stated as a 59A engine in the first post.

Bob C 11-14-2020 05:27 PM

Re: Hole saw
 

Yup you said 59A, I screwed up. But if you need to change your wheel studs
you know where to look. :D

flathead48 11-14-2020 06:22 PM

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No one screwed up, it is just the rush to help people , that is what makes this site so great. Everyone is always willing to help. God Bless all and thanks for caring.

Mart 11-14-2020 06:43 PM

Re: Hole saw
 

I know of the type of tool you are looking for, but hopefully it might not be necessary for a 59A with the stock iron heads. They were popular when aluminium heads were more common and they had lots of problems with dissimilar metal corrosion.

That said, the last 59A I pulled the heads on was a proper swine, but I did get them off. You can fabricate a pair of pullers using scrap spark plugs and some long bolts. Two pieces of plate to span the studs and at least you're in with a fighting chance.

The hole saws, if you could find one, would leave you with oversize holes in the head.

Mart.

JSeery 11-14-2020 06:47 PM

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If the engine was still running an easy way to get the heads loose is to start it up with the head bolt nuts off. If you can turn it over it still might work, put the plugs in and see if the compression from turning it over will pop them loose.

flathead48 11-14-2020 07:06 PM

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Jseery, tried running it but head didn’t move. B& S suggest penetrating oil and wedges. I will take my time and try not to damage anything.thanks to all

flatjack9 11-14-2020 09:00 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mart (Post 1952147)
I know of the type of tool you are looking for, but hopefully it might not be necessary for a 59A with the stock iron heads. They were popular when aluminium heads were more common and they had lots of problems with dissimilar metal corrosion.

That said, the last 59A I pulled the heads on was a proper swine, but I did get them off. You can fabricate a pair of pullers using scrap spark plugs and some long bolts. Two pieces of plate to span the studs and at least you're in with a fighting chance.

The hole saws, if you could find one, would leave you with oversize holes in the head.

Mart.

I made up the same pullers when I also had a b**** of a time getting a set of 59A heads off. Worked great.

Tinker 11-15-2020 12:54 AM

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Strange stuff. Soak the crap out of it. Heat the crap out of it. Repeat. Time is your friend. A wedge of brass or wood on the head to block is a decent assistant. Hopefully no one jb welded the head gasket. :) I'm joking.

deuce_roadster 11-15-2020 01:24 AM

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I posted pictures of one of these in my MISC album with the box it came in.

Mart 11-15-2020 03:30 AM

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One of Deuce Roadster's pics

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/pictu...ictureid=42434

51 MERC-CT 11-15-2020 05:36 AM

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And another...
https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/pictu...ictureid=42433

big job 11-15-2020 10:10 AM

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Its called 'annular' Maybe not spelled right available from any industrial tool like Victor
Shars maybe ebay. Then way back with a spark plug adaptor they pumped grease
in there "valves closed" better buy a case of grease tubes, not to mention shop rags
for the mess but it really does work. So for 15 min. just braze a zerk on a cleaned out
spark plug. pump the grease gun >> the power of hydraulics is amazing just pump
no. 2 hole and no. 3 hole and watch......bingo " it lifted a Scotch remove grease fitting
couple nuts wind head back down I hate snake oil but go for your choosing to spray some on all studs. No drilling no hy teck stuff just real time science and no damage...

"the head didn't grow in there"

russcc 11-15-2020 07:14 PM

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Here is another method that was used to get an old set of aluminum heads off. They were really stuck. An old time Model A guy suggested cleaning out around the stud hole perimeter in the heads as best you can, and use Kroil around around all the studs. Let it set for a day or two, and add more if needed. Off the old head came. If it worked on aluminum heads it ought to work on the cast iron heads as well.

flathead48 11-15-2020 08:03 PM

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Thanks to all for the help been trying to get penetrating oil around studs, I will keep soaking to I can get some movement in the head. Thanks again guys


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