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KCTA Chris 03-12-2018 12:44 PM

Installed the Simmons Super Power head
 

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Forced myself to park the truck a couple weeks and do maintenance, while at it finally installed the Simmons head. Always something: broken head bolts (ended up leaving some old studs in place) and after 50k miles on an unknown rebuild/babbitt a few things that have me thinking about a fresh block build in the future. Reading here had me nervous about the premium silicone gasket so went with a Fel-Pro 7013 R4. Then on the second re-torque broke the water neck even though I used the match trick and checking against for flatness. Also the plugs move placing it right in the way of the spark advance rod, a little bend should fix.

All that fuss and I still enjoyed working on it.
Now rebuild those the twin Simmons carbs!

TinCup 03-12-2018 01:00 PM

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That's a thing of beauty. Now you need a Simmons Carb like mine.

KCTA Chris 03-12-2018 01:26 PM

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Thanks!
I've got two thanks to Jim Huseby. Ran one for a while.
Rebuilding both is next on the list!

AL in NY 03-12-2018 05:08 PM

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You won't have problems with the water neck if you only use black silicon gasket maker insist of the usual water neck gasket. I leave the gasket out and just use black RTV silicon instead of the gasket. Never had a problem breaking the water neck this way
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Anteek29 03-12-2018 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by AL in NY (Post 1604302)
You won't have problems with the water neck if you only use black silicon gasket maker insist of the usual water neck gasket. I leave the gasket out and just use black RTV silicon instead of the gasket. Never had a problem breaking the water neck this way
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I am in agreement on using RTV ;)

Ed Saniewski 03-13-2018 05:29 AM

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Me too, just don't crank down right away with the torque wrench, let the gasket maker set up for a bit.

Bob-A 03-13-2018 06:47 AM

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I've also got a "Simmons Super Power Head" and some Simmons carbs to run on my "A". If and when I ever get off my butt and do it!:o My 1933 Simmons catalog lists two different high compression heads for the Model-A: a 5-to-1 and a 5.5-to-1 head. Which one my head is I have no idea.:confused:

Bob-A:D

KCTA Chris 03-13-2018 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob-A (Post 1604463)
I've also got a "Simmons Super Power Head" and some Simmons carbs to run on my "A". If and when I ever get off my butt and do it!:o My 1933 Simmons catalog lists two different high compression heads for the Model-A: a 5-to-1 and a 5.5-to-1 head. Which one my head is I have no idea.:confused:

Bob-A:D

Wow, I've never seen the catalog, can you could scan it?

I didn't know there were two either, I see on fordgarage.com he list Simmons at 6.1. I had a friend ask to CC this head but my in my stubborn rush to install I neglected to take him up on the offer. Now wish I had!

Joe K 03-13-2018 03:28 PM

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Painting the head red would make it go even faster...

Snicker.

Joe K

Bob-A 03-13-2018 03:44 PM

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KCTA Chris,

Vincent Falter (Ford Garage) has also asked me to scan some pages in the catalog for him too. I'm not much of a computer whiz, but I'll try soon and let you know.;)

Bob-A:D

Synchro909 03-13-2018 04:34 PM

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Water outlet neck: I have never used anything but a smear of silicone and I've never broken one.

KCTA Chris 03-13-2018 05:03 PM

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Thanks Bob! Larger scans are great, can help walk you through if needed. Purdy Swoft was collecting Simmons (this is a head he graciously sold), he may have more info on identification too. I'm always learning, not sure what happened on the water neck, light file and checked both with a straightedge, paper gasket with light silicone and used the paper matchsticks. Popped right after torque, maybe it was just its time to go. Just silicone next.

Cracked the Simmons Carbs apart, thats this weeks challenge.

Painting the head red... what happens if just paint the whole truck? :)

CWPASADENA 03-14-2018 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by AL in NY (Post 1604302)
You won't have problems with the water neck if you only use black silicon gasket maker insist of the usual water neck gasket. I leave the gasket out and just use black RTV silicon instead of the gasket. Never had a problem breaking the water neck this way
.

X2


Chris W.

3.6rs 03-14-2018 11:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AL in NY (Post 1604302)
You won't have problems with the water neck if you only use black silicon gasket maker insist of the usual water neck gasket. I leave the gasket out and just use black RTV silicon instead of the gasket. Never had a problem breaking the water neck this way
.

Why black and not blue ??:confused:

KCTA Chris 03-18-2018 10:13 PM

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Done. Noticeable difference in power too!
Added a couple videos on youtube:

https://youtu.be/Xv2cOJxxzNI

https://youtu.be/jRBsovkErhA

diomed 03-18-2018 11:45 PM

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Aesthetics

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Originally Posted by 3.6rs (Post 1605287)
Why black and not blue ??:confused:


Y-Blockhead 03-19-2018 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by KCTA Chris (Post 1606751)
Done. Noticeable difference in power too!
Added a couple videos on youtube:

https://youtu.be/Xv2cOJxxzNI

https://youtu.be/jRBsovkErhA

What? No burnouts?? :eek::eek:

KCTA Chris 03-19-2018 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Y-Blockhead (Post 1606770)
What? No burnouts?? :eek::eek:

Last time I tried that I discovered the downfall of the riveted U joint!
Holding speed on the local hill is all I need.

jim1932 04-03-2019 06:42 AM

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Anyone running a Simmons intake on a B motor? trying to figure out the choke cable hookup.

Railcarmover 04-03-2019 08:26 AM

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https://i.imgur.com/HJOmLSA.jpg?1

be careful,its a slippery slope..


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