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Lawson Cox 10-26-2019 01:28 AM

Type nuts used for 42-48 ignition coil wires
 

I have several 42-48 ignition coils. There seems to have been two types of nuts used that held the wire on the two top terminals. One was a regular hex nut while the other is what I'll call a tube nut for lack of the correct terminology. It is a round tube, about 1/4 inch long, with the center hole threaded. It is designed to be tightened or loosened by fingers OR by a screw driver slot cut across the top end od the nut. It is brass. Which if either is correct? Anybody have a couple of the tube type they would get rid of? I would post a picture but have forgotten how to do that. Lawson Cox 770-784-0507

Angledrive 10-26-2019 06:53 AM

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The tube nut

FortyNiner 10-26-2019 09:40 AM

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I've seen both types on supposed original / NORS parts. In my case, the nuts didn't interchange.

RalphM 10-26-2019 09:45 AM

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Ive always seen the tube nut. I’ll look out in the shed as soon as it’s light out.

Kube 10-26-2019 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Lawson Cox (Post 1813990)
I have several 42-48 ignition coils. There seems to have been two types of nuts used that held the wire on the two top terminals. One was a regular hex nut while the other is what I'll call a tube nut for lack of the correct terminology. It is a round tube, about 1/4 inch long, with the center hole threaded. It is designed to be tightened or loosened by fingers OR by a screw driver slot cut across the top end od the nut. It is brass. Which if either is correct? Anybody have a couple of the tube type they would get rid of? I would post a picture but have forgotten how to do that. Lawson Cox 770-784-0507

Lawson, the so called "tube nut" is the only concourse correct choice.

FortyNiner 10-26-2019 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Kube (Post 1814141)
Lawson, the so called "tube nut" is the only concourse correct choice.

Since I'll never be accused of anything approaching concourse standard, what is the guiding reference? The Early V8 publication?

Kube 10-26-2019 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by FortyNiner (Post 1814154)
Since I'll never be accused of anything approaching concourse standard, what is the guiding reference? The Early V8 publication?

Benson Ford Research Center in Dearborn, MI.

I'd hazard to say that nearly anything and everything can be sought out there if one has the time as well as the patience.

Kube 10-26-2019 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by FortyNiner (Post 1814111)
I've seen both types on supposed original / NORS parts. In my case, the nuts didn't interchange.

No interchange? Simple enough...
Coils were produced with both #8 as well as #10 threaded studs. With respect to '42 -'48, I do not know the time frame nor the reason this was so.

Factory installed coils in '39 & '40 utilized (only) #8 studs. Service parts were supplied in both #8 and #10.

FortyNiner 10-26-2019 01:18 PM

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Thanks, Mike! I'm smarter now - for the moment anyway.

RalphM 10-26-2019 01:23 PM

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So I only found one barrel nut, and it was on a helmet coil.
Tried to put it on a 47 coil, and it didn’t fit. Threads are different as Kube stated above.

Kube 10-26-2019 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by RalphM (Post 1814220)
So I only found one barrel nut, and it was on a helmet coil.
Tried to put it on a 47 coil, and it didn’t fit. Threads are different as Kube stated above.

I wish I could tell you guys what was "concourse correct" size for '42 - '48 but that's outside my expertise.

BUBBAS IGNITION 10-26-2019 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Lawson Cox (Post 1813990)
I have several 42-48 ignition coils. There seems to have been two types of nuts used that held the wire on the two top terminals. One was a regular hex nut while the other is what I'll call a tube nut for lack of the correct terminology. It is a round tube, about 1/4 inch long, with the center hole threaded. It is designed to be tightened or loosened by fingers OR by a screw driver slot cut across the top end od the nut. It is brass. Which if either is correct? Anybody have a couple of the tube type they would get rid of? I would post a picture but have forgotten how to do that. Lawson Cox 770-784-0507

PM yer address and i will mail ya a couple of each size .....have a few ...:eek:

Lawson Cox 10-26-2019 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by RalphM (Post 1814220)
So I only found one barrel nut, and it was on a helmet coil.
Tried to put it on a 47 coil, and it didn’t fit. Threads are different as Kube stated above.


Ralph. Yes, that's what I am looking for. I will see what size the stud/nut are, and report. THANKS

cas3 10-26-2019 05:46 PM

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whether correct or not, i like the look of the tube nuts. another sort of unique ford only thing, and if you drop one, its easier to see if it rolls into no mans land under the bench

rotorwrench 10-26-2019 06:36 PM

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The thread per inch change may be due to different suppliers to Ford. Ford generally always had more than one extra supplier for electrical parts.

paul2748 10-26-2019 07:26 PM

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If they are # 10, they could be either coarse or fine thread ?

Lawson Cox 10-26-2019 09:12 PM

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Thanks a lot for the quick and educational responses on a bit of Ford minutia. I can always count on you guys and gals to come through when I ask for help. I have tried to be of help over the years, and hope I have contributed a little to the hobby. I'm slowing way down physically and can't piddle like I used to, but still enjoying the hobby and friendships acquired over the years.
god Bless.

KGS 10-27-2019 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Kube (Post 1814141)
Lawson, the so called "tube nut" is the only concourse correct choice.

I've seen these "tube" nuts in both brass or bronze color or shiny like stainless. Also, some knurled and some smooth. Which of these, if any, were original ?

35fordtn 10-27-2019 08:39 AM

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Ford used both 8-32 and 10-32 sizes, however as mentioned above most were 8-32’s and most aftermarket and service replacements had 10-32. Most of the originals are nickel or cadmium plated brass, but I have encountered many on service parts that were plain brass. The 42-48’s also used a special washer beneath the nut on one of the studs to retain the resistor block on top of the coil.

Kube 10-27-2019 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by KGS (Post 1814496)
I've seen these "tube" nuts in both brass or bronze color or shiny like stainless. Also, some knurled and some smooth. Which of these, if any, were original ?

I can only answer with authority for '39 - '40. Those were solid brass, no knurling whatsoever.


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