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Vic Piano 01-06-2012 03:30 PM

What I Did on My Lunch Hour
 

Working from home certainly has its benefits,:) not the least of which is, I get to work/play in the garage on my lunch hour… As you know, if you read my postings, the Zephyr developed a knocking noise coming from the transmission a week or so ago.:( My worst fear is that something in the transmission let go however, upon closer inspection, I don’t think that is the case. I’m hoping that the problem lies in the clutch and its related parts. At lunch, I started to disassemble the interior so that we could take a good look. I got everything out, that needed to come out, to give access to the transmission.
http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n...2012/004-3.jpg
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I got the car up on the lift and that’s as far as I got.
http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n...2012/003-6.jpg
Tomorrow Mike, Don and maybe a few other “Barner’s” are coming over to work/play so I hope we’ll at least be able to isolate and identify the problem.

Pete/Ct. 01-06-2012 03:44 PM

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Check out the throw out bearing, spring etc.Pete/Ct

frenchy dehoux 01-06-2012 03:51 PM

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The Throw out bearing spring can be checked through the small vented cover and you can see inside of it.

Frenchy

Vic Piano 01-06-2012 04:45 PM

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I got the inspection cover off and the phone started ringing so I haven't had a chance to do anything else. Think I'll just wait till tomorrow before I get back into it.

frenchy dehoux 01-06-2012 05:43 PM

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Vic

If you do this tomorrow and you need help call me on my cell phone ( 602 ) 7231047 and I can help you .

Frenchy

Vic Piano 01-06-2012 05:51 PM

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Thanks Frenchy, I appreciate that. I put a clutch in the Zephyr around 8 or 9 years ago but, like most of us, I suffer from bouts of CRS more and more these days. Vic

PeteVS 01-06-2012 07:04 PM

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What's that yaller thing in the background? Don't look like no Ford or Studebaker! Heck- don't even look American!

Shadetree 01-06-2012 08:03 PM

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Wow! I don't think I have ever seen a Liicoln transmission before. A whole different horse....

Shadetree

Vic Piano 01-06-2012 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by PeteVS (Post 338574)
What's that yaller thing in the background? Don't look like no Ford or Studebaker! Heck- don't even look American!

Pete, that's a '68 Jag XKE Series 1.5 that my dad bought new. I pulled the gas tank out to clean it. The car needs brakes, etc. before I brought it down to Florida (unbeknownst to me) my dad had let it sit in an old chicken coop for several years so it now needs an interior and top as well. Here's another photo of it.
http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n...046/001-20.jpg

Vic Piano 01-06-2012 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Shadetree (Post 338602)
Wow! I don't think I have ever seen a Liicoln transmission before. A whole different horse....

Shadetree

Shadetree, that transmission with the side mounted "top loader" was used in the '38 & '39 LZ only however, the gears are the same as the '39 Ford.

frenchy dehoux 01-06-2012 09:28 PM

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Vic

The first thing I would do is raise the back of the car and have it on jack stands than start it up and slowly put it in gear and bring up the RPM and see if you can hear the noise while you are inside the car to possibly identify where it maybe coming from. Let us know.

Frenchy

Old Henry 01-06-2012 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Vic Piano (Post 338445)
Tomorrow Mike, Don and maybe a few other “Barner’s” are coming over to work/play.

In my neighborhood we say we're getting together to "play cars" just like we did when we were kids only the cars are bigger now.:)

Bob G/Spanaway 01-06-2012 10:01 PM

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That's a great transmission!
I had one in a '40 coupe 50 years ago.
Now I have one in another '40 coupe.

Rusty Junk Ranch 01-06-2012 10:24 PM

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Nice convertible Vic, that would be a nice addition to my 4 door !

http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/i...n/102_0396.jpg

Bob G/Spanaway 01-07-2012 12:24 AM

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All car makers made beautiful cars in the '30s.
Those Lincolns are a good example.
Look at the crap they're putting out now.
They seem to be in competition to make the ugliest car!

Vic Piano 01-07-2012 09:38 AM

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Rockey, your '39 is really good looking. Hopefully our '39 will look as good someday soon. Vic

Vic Piano 01-07-2012 05:10 PM

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Today’s Fun in the Garage:)
Mike, Don, John and Cliff came over to give me a hand with the Zephyr.
http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n...2012/001-8.jpg
After some troubleshooting, we decided that the noise was not coming from the gearbox but instead it was coming from the bell housing, clutch, etc. area.
http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n...2012/002-8.jpg
Mike got in the car and John went underneath to disconnect the torque tube from the transmission
http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n...2012/006-3.jpg
http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n...2012/008-1.jpg
We got ready to lower the rear and discovered that the spring would not clear the cross member without the help of a spring spreader, which we did not have.:(
http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n...2012/012-1.jpg
So, we decided that it was time for pizza:D and that we would continue next Saturday.
http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n...2012/013-1.jpg

Bassman/NZ 01-07-2012 05:29 PM

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A wise decision! :D

Hotrodladycrusr 01-09-2012 09:43 PM

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Will there be pizza next Saturday?

Vic Piano 01-10-2012 07:45 AM

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Pizza is as much a part of our Saturday play time as tools. Will you be down in the Sunshine State next week, if so; should we make a place at the table for you?

Brendan 01-10-2012 09:19 AM

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can i come too?

Hotrodladycrusr 01-10-2012 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Vic Piano (Post 340832)
Pizza is as much a part of our Saturday play time as tools. Will you be down in the Sunshine State next week, if so; should we make a place at the table for you?

Yep, I'll bring my work clothes too so I can help out.
Looking forward to seeing you boys again.:cool:

Vic Piano 01-10-2012 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodladycrusr (Post 340875)
Yep, I'll bring my work clothes too so I can help out.
Looking forward to seeing you boys again.:cool:

Excellent! Looking forward to seeing you as well.:)

Vic Piano 01-10-2012 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Brendan (Post 340874)
can i come too?

There's always room for one more...

Vic Piano 01-10-2012 10:26 AM

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A Shocking Revelation:eek:.
While disassembling the rear of the ’39 LZ I took a close look at the original “knee action” shocks and determined that they need to be rebuilt. A quick call to Bill Wzorek and I had a solution to the problem. As luck would have it, Bill had a pair of Zephyr rear shocks in stock so, they are on their way:D. If you need original “knee action” shocks rebuilt I would give Bill a call or contact him through the web sites. I don’t want to post his phone number without asking first but, if any of you want it, send me a pm and I’ll give it to you.
Thanks Bill, I really appreciate your help.
Vic

Hotrodladycrusr 01-10-2012 12:27 PM

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So about what time do folks start showing up AND is one of those folks going to be your local car pal Henry Floored by chance?

Tim Ayers 01-10-2012 12:54 PM

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Vic:

Not sure which I like better. That Jag is pretty cool!

Tim

Vic Piano 01-10-2012 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodladycrusr (Post 340962)
So about what time do folks start showing up AND is one of those folks going to be your local car pal Henry Floored by chance?

They usually start rollin' in around 9:30 to 10:00am and Mike (Henry Floored) will be here.

Vic Piano 01-10-2012 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Tim Ayers (Post 340970)
Vic:

Not sure which I like better. That Jag is pretty cool!

Tim

Tim, I know how you feel, I like them all, and the Jag has been in my family from '68 when my dad bought it new.

01aford 01-10-2012 07:56 PM

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Vic,
I've always found it easier to pull the engine then the transmission. How much time does it save to drop the rear?

Vic Piano 01-10-2012 09:11 PM

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It's a double edged sward in this case, I have a Columbia rear that I want to install in the Zephyr so, I’m hoping to do that once we get the transmission problem solved. Also, the Zephyr is a unit-body construction meaning that the inner fenders are welded to the cowl and frame as is the body, making it difficult, to say the least, to pull the engine. We pulled the radiator to have it repaired and it took three of us to jockey it out and back in again. In this case, I think pulling the rear is the lesser of two evils.

01aford 01-10-2012 09:17 PM

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Ok.I understand. It's very different then the Ford.

Vic Piano 01-10-2012 09:21 PM

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Our '39 Ford is completely different from the '39 Lincoln Zephyr in terms of construction. I never knew how the zephyr was built until I got this one.

coupe5w36 01-11-2012 05:32 AM

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I'd love to come over & help out, but I reckon the pizza would be well & truly gone by the time I turned up :) !!

Vic Piano 01-11-2012 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by coupe5w36 (Post 341369)
I'd love to come over & help out, but I reckon the pizza would be well & truly gone by the time I turned up :) !!

Nope, they never run out of pizza:D

richard crow 01-11-2012 07:57 AM

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that rear schould be done on the floor it,s much ezer

Vic Piano 01-11-2012 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by richard crow (Post 341393)
that rear schould be done on the floor it,s much ezer

I've had the pleasure:rolleyes: of removing Ford rears a number of times over the years and believe me, getting it apart and ready for removal while it is up on the lift is a lot easier, and more fun,:D than working under the car laying on the floor.:( When the rear is ready to come out, we'll drop the lift so we can slide the rear out from under the car.:cool:

Hotrodladycrusr 01-11-2012 03:49 PM

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Vic, would you pass the word to your car pals that will be there on Saturday that I'm looking for old races, bearing, gears, flexplates, metal fan blades, anything round. I'm also interested in old flathead heads. Nothing good, I'm looking at scraps bits, pieces and parts to make yard art. I've been a welding fool lately. Thanks bud!

Vic Piano 01-11-2012 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodladycrusr (Post 341669)
Vic, would you pass the word to your car pals that will be there on Saturday that I'm looking for old races, bearing, gears, flexplates, metal fan blades, anything round. I'm also interested in old flathead heads. Nothing good, I'm looking at scraps bits, pieces and parts to make yard art. I've been a welding fool lately. Thanks bud!

Denise, I've got a garage full of Flathead "yard art" and you are welcome to dig through it. I'll also let the guys know that you are on the hunt for goodies. See you Saturday. Vic

Tim Ayers 01-11-2012 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Vic Piano (Post 341016)
Tim, I know how you feel, I like them all, and the Jag has been in my family from '68 when my dad bought it new.


Vic:

I like the Jag even more after hearing the back story. That's awesome! Enjoy.

Tim


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