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Veedubcollector 02-29-2012 09:58 PM

What was mounted on my FIREWALL?
 

I have uncovered FIVE holes on the firewall that were filled with body filler...Does anyone know what could've been mounted there? Three across the top and two below, forming a W pattern. Lets' test your knowledge here and see if you know! thanks

Once again I am not able to upload a picture...this site sucks!

BCCHOPIT 02-29-2012 10:15 PM

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Pics would help a lot :)
What size are the holes 1/8 or 3/4

Bob C 02-29-2012 10:19 PM

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Why can't you upload pictures:confused:

700rpm 03-01-2012 01:08 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Veedubcollector (Post 376515)
I have uncovered FIVE holes on the firewall that were filled with body filler...Does anyone know what could've been mounted there? Three across the top and two below, forming a W pattern. Lets' test your knowledge here and see if you know! thanks

Once again I am not able to upload a picture...this site sucks!

Just because you can't figure out how to load photos (when most others can) doesn't mean the site sucks, does it? Could it possibly be you? :rolleyes: Did you try reading the Additional Options window? Did you click on Manage Attachments? Did you use the right type of file in the right size? Did you choose a file and click Upload? It really isn't that hard!

gweilbaker 03-01-2012 06:47 AM

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No, this sucks http://schoolworkhelper.net/wp-conte...um-Cleaner.jpg.

It could have been a:
Headlight relay,
Water type heater accessory,
Battery mount,
A fuse block,
a bracket for carrying oil or water can.

GW

2manycars 03-01-2012 06:55 AM

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Most likely a battery tray. A lot of cars had the battery moved to the firewall many years ago. Some argue it should have been there all along, as it is most inconvenient to get at in the original location.

real550A 03-01-2012 07:00 AM

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I've seen toolboxes mounted under the hood of more than one Model A. Battery box
is one of the more likely guesses, for sure!

John LaVoy 03-01-2012 09:16 AM

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Several years ago we ran an article in the Model A Times that showed a burglar alarm that attached to the firewall it could have been that.

FL&WVMIKE 03-01-2012 09:58 AM

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Veedubcollector ........................
If you try to post photos from your computer and have not downsized them, it will just hang up and not tell you why.
800 pixels wide is the largest it will take on thumbnails.
MIKE :)

Jerry Parr WI 03-01-2012 10:38 AM

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Is it your intention to find and reinstall whatever? I have a firewall that had 48 extra holes. Walk thru the auto parts store and select one of each!!

Mike V. Florida 03-01-2012 10:39 AM

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Battery box.

I wonder what was mounted on my son's firewall?

BCCHOPIT 03-01-2012 11:21 AM

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^^^^
Old school AC :)

Veedubcollector 03-01-2012 11:50 AM

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Three holes across the top and two beneath. The holes are inset and almost appear to have accepted a tapered secrew head. Nothing looks as if it mounted inside and the car was obviously painted after the holes were filled with filler. Any helpful suggestions appreciated. And YES i would like to reinstall what ever it was to take it back to the correct time period. To answer a simple question in advance I would ask the original owner but he passed away years ago.

Bob C 03-01-2012 11:57 AM

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Originally nothing was mounted there.

Bob

Tom Wesenberg 03-01-2012 12:02 PM

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Looks like bullet holes. Unfortunately many jerks used old cars for targets.

Veedubcollector 03-01-2012 12:11 PM

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I'm not aware of any bullets that grind the inside lip off after they make impact. I understand they are NOT original but if the accessory is cool enough I want to locate one and install. The idea of a tool box or OIL/WATER/GAS cans is intriguing enough for me to persue a plausible answer

Tom Wesenberg 03-01-2012 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Veedubcollector (Post 376853)
I'm not aware of any bullets that grind the inside lip off after they make impact. I understand they are NOT original but if the accessory is cool enough I want to locate one and install. The idea of a tool box or OIL/WATER/GAS cans is intriguing enough for me to persue a plausible answer

By the impact and various size of the holes and jagged edge, I would say someone saw that triangle formed by the 3 ribs and thought that would make a nice bullseye. Later someone put the car back in use and ground the flare off the rear and filled the holes with body putty. Just a wild guess.:D

Dave in Boise 03-01-2012 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike V. Florida (Post 376791)
Battery box.

I wonder what was mounted on my son's firewall?


Reminds me of that quote from 2001 space Oddysey "My God, it's full of stars" (lol)

That's not a firewall, it's a sieve to kep the larger engine parts from coming into the cabin in case of catastrophic failure :)

- Dave

gweilbaker 03-01-2012 12:44 PM

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Judging by the rust and the size I wonder if it was for a battery which would put it close to the starter.
GW

Rusty Homestead Fl 03-01-2012 01:24 PM

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I'd guess a target.

Cool Hand Lurker 03-01-2012 01:29 PM

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I think it really is a "W" letter mounting place, like in "Wolksvagen".... :)

Dave in Boise 03-01-2012 01:36 PM

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I can't think of anything that would be nounted on the inside of the firewall, as they would interfere with the drivers legroom...

It is odd that the holes do appear to be punched rather than drilled, and if there were significant weight, the holes would be tapered outwards (as if there were carriage bolts tightened on the mystery object).

I vote for battery box (note the battery base would be closer to the 2 lower holes than to the top 3, due to the radiator rod placement, so likely a box or basket rather than tray) or a toolbox of some sort..

Bullet holes are a possibility, but these do seem to be pretty a pretty regular pattern.. Maybe an old farmer did not have a drill to mount his battery basket, so used old betsy to put holes in the firewall? :D

It is a mystery...

BILL WILLIAMSON 03-01-2012 02:26 PM

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My '29 has a 2"X4" oval area pounded in by a ball pein hammer, directly behind exhaust manifold???:eek: It adds to the MYSTIQUE of the car. Inside, it shows NO signs of a big welded up hole, only some small welded up holes.:confused:
Puzzled, Bill W.

Bruce Adams 03-01-2012 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike V. Florida (Post 376791)
Battery box.

I wonder what was mounted on my son's firewall?

Looks like a SHOTGUN, Mike.:D

1930artdeco 03-01-2012 02:49 PM

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I figured it out! Two slugs from a 12 Gauge, two rifle rounds and a pistol. It can't be a battery as it would interfere with the hood.

Mike

Tim 03-01-2012 03:59 PM

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That's my vote,

Deer slugs and .38

tim

Mike V. Florida 03-01-2012 04:03 PM

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My vote is a battery holder. I believe that the holes were "punched" in not drilled. When they were filled in the backs were ground smooth.

Richard in Anaheim CA 03-01-2012 06:10 PM

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Making a really wild guess, could it be a patch over the indented late 31 firewall on a right hand drive Model A? :>)

Richard
Anaheim CA

gpits68 03-01-2012 07:35 PM

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id say a small toolbox,maybe a toolbox from an old ford tractor,i think its too high for a battery tray.

CHuDWah 03-01-2012 08:21 PM

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I'd say most likely a battery box or tool box. But I do have a wilder guess. Does the car have hydraulic brakes or any evidence that it once did - or that the body was on another chassis that did? I'm thinking master cylinder or booster - four mounting bolt holes and one for the pedal rod. Course, there's nothing saying all five holes were for mounting the same thing - could have been different holes for different stuff throughout the last eighty years.

Roadster62 03-01-2012 08:40 PM

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Cut it out, frame it, and pass it off as artwork.

James Rogers 03-04-2012 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Veedubcollector (Post 376833)
Three holes across the top and two beneath. The holes are inset and almost appear to have accepted a tapered secrew head. Nothing looks as if it mounted inside and the car was obviously painted after the holes were filled with filler. Any helpful suggestions appreciated. And YES i would like to reinstall what ever it was to take it back to the correct time period. To answer a simple question in advance I would ask the original owner but he passed away years ago.

If those are bullet holes, the shooter is a master. I don't think I have ever seen anyone who could hit on a perfectly straight line and space the hits so accurately apart :confused:. Not bullet holes.

MikeK 03-04-2012 02:12 PM

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The top three (across) held a three-prong blivit like this:

http://www.michaelbach.de/ot/cog_imposs1/devilsfork.gif
The bottom two holes were for the accessory support bracket.


Roadster62 03-04-2012 02:19 PM

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They look metric.

85930tudor 03-04-2012 05:26 PM

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Blivit? Is that the mount for a after market Roton Blisterflux?

sturgis 39 03-04-2012 06:29 PM

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I thinks it might have been a water injector or a lubricator. Might have been a gas can used to start the engine and then the car was run on diesel fuel.

Fred 03-04-2012 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Veedubcollector (Post 376833)
Three holes across the top and two beneath. The holes are inset and almost appear to have accepted a tapered secrew head. Nothing looks as if it mounted inside and the car was obviously painted after the holes were filled with filler. Any helpful suggestions appreciated. And YES i would like to reinstall what ever it was to take it back to the correct time period. To answer a simple question in advance I would ask the original owner but he passed away years ago.

Easy, Fill the holes with welded steel, sand & paint smooth, & you are back to the correct time period..:D

Chris in WNC 03-05-2012 08:01 PM

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looks like the mounting bolt pattern for an old vacuum tube type disgronificator..:D

Richard Wilson 03-06-2012 07:42 AM

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My Victoria had a hot water heater mounted on the inside firewall above the steering column at some point in time. That way the heat would blow on the driver. Similar holes.

Veedubcollector 03-06-2012 12:30 PM

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WOW! Of all of the so-called Model A "EXPERTS" and "HOBBIESTS" out there I'm not at all shocked to see just how many of you jump on the "MOCKING" bandwagon. If You can not offer a useful suggestion just don't offer one at all. You might as well all post your thoughts on sites like VWforum and those alike , with the rest of the immature teens. Here's another pic for you who say it's a series of gun shot holes, let's try to be a bit more optomistic from here on out. A little more history for those who are concerned with the "FILL and PAINT" suggestions, a more accurate time period would've been the early 1950's since the car has been parked indoors since then. An accessory WAS mounted here at one point 60+ years ago and would love to know more about what it could have been. The water heater was the most intelligent suggestion so far.


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