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Panheadguy 06-30-2025 07:24 AM

Centrifugal advance distributor
 

Wanting to ad centrifugal advance so wife can drive and not worry about manually adjusting. I have a Honda Civic points distributor I modified to fit.
Want to keep reverse polarity as original. Can I wire the armored cable to the terminal on the distributor and leave everything as is?
Thank You

nkaminar 06-30-2025 08:18 AM

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If mechanical points and not an electronic condensor, then yes. If electronic ignition then no.

It is not hard to change polarity. Since the battery is hidden under the floor boards, you will be the only one to know.

Ruth 06-30-2025 08:39 AM

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I would guess if it is electronic it would also be 12 volt?

nkaminar 06-30-2025 08:49 AM

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Another thing to be concerned about is the advance curve. That will depend on whether you have a stock or higher compression head and other things. You don't want to have the timing too advanced or the engine will eat connecting rod bearings.

Panheadguy 06-30-2025 08:52 AM

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It is a points dist. Are you suggesting I would need to reverse polarity? I was hoping to leave it pos ground to not affect charging.

Panheadguy 06-30-2025 08:54 AM

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It's all stock. I will see what advance the distributor has and limit it. I think I read 29' is about the max?

katy 06-30-2025 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Panheadguy (Post 2397815)
I have a Honda Civic points distributor I modified to fit

What year(s) would that be?

cadillac512 06-30-2025 09:49 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Panheadguy (Post 2397828)
It is a points dist. Are you suggesting I would need to reverse polarity? I was hoping to leave it pos ground to not affect charging.


You can use it pos ground no problem. The points dist doesn't care.

AzBob 06-30-2025 10:15 AM

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In a nutshell, the Honda Civic points distributor’s advance curve full advance will come in at a much higher rpm. I don’t have exact numbers. For example max advance on the Honda engine will be in the neighborhood of ~ 4500 rpm. Whereas you want the Model A engine to be at full advance ~2000 rpm.

To accomplish this will need manipulation of the bob weight springs or the bob weights themselves. Also need a means to verify. Can be done in the car with a timing light setup. Ideal setup would be with the distributor mounted in a distributor machine.

Richard Knight 06-30-2025 10:16 AM

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Is it made to turn CCW. If not the advance won't work right. You will need to check total advance around 2k engine rpm.

AzBob 06-30-2025 10:26 AM

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Corley has done the Honda Civic distributor conversion a while ago and is considered the guru for this conversion. See link here:

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=244492

Brendan 06-30-2025 10:55 AM

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I have a FS disributer in my A , its 12 volts negitve ground , ita also ,centrifugal advance , and electronic, it works good, and has given me no trouble

nkaminar 06-30-2025 11:27 AM

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Pan Head Guy, I was just suggesting that changing the polarity would be easy, IF NEEDED. Since it is mechanical points, positive ground is just fine. The only other polarity consideration is if the condensor is the electronic type, made using semiconductors. But I have never seen that on a car and it would probably not work because the ignition system rings, with positive and negative voltage on the condensor.

Panheadguy 06-30-2025 12:10 PM

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NKAMINAR, Thanks for chiming in with short concise info. Yup std. old shiny metal condenser, was more concerned with how the charging system reacts to reverse polarity.
Getting this heap read for the 4th of July parade. I did reach out to Corley but have not heard back from him.

Panheadguy 06-30-2025 12:11 PM

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He favors the electronic Honda dist. which is happy at 12v.

Panheadguy 06-30-2025 12:12 PM

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It does turn CCW

Panheadguy 06-30-2025 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by katy (Post 2397836)
What year(s) would that be?

I think '78....but some of the ones I saw in that era were different where they mounted, I picked one with points that looked right. Inthe past I have used CJ2A Willys Jeep distributors but on 12V and they are getting $

Y-Blockhead 06-30-2025 03:14 PM

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It may be easier to get a Nu-Rex Auto Advancer. The advance is already setup for the Model A. Then you can use your original distributor and everything will look stock.

https://www.snydersantiqueauto.com/8...htm?pid=976340

Cape Codder 06-30-2025 03:38 PM

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I sure would like to hear from anyone that has the Nu-Rex setup in their engine and how does it perform? Lastly, how many miles have you driven with it installed? Is it worth buying?

Y-Blockhead 07-01-2025 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Cape Codder (Post 2397913)
I sure would like to hear from anyone that has the Nu-Rex setup in their engine and how does it perform? Lastly, how many miles have you driven with it installed? Is it worth buying?

I do have one in my Town Sedan. Edit: I(t was) installed before I bought the car ~10 years ago. I have never had a issue with it. I set my timing for full advance at 28° BTDC. I have a high compression head.

For more info, check out this article on Vince's Ford Garage.

https://www.fordgarage.com/pages/nurexadvance.htm

https://www.fordgarage.com/pages/phillipsspark.htm

katy 07-01-2025 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Y-Blockhead (Post 2398043)
I do have one in my Town Sedan. I installed before I bought the car.

That'a a good trick.

Y-Blockhead 07-01-2025 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by katy (Post 2398047)
That'a a good trick.

Sorry, it's early. "It was installed before I bought the car"!!

nkaminar 07-01-2025 11:36 AM

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Pan Head Guy, Just to let you know, the polarity of the generator can easily be changed by zapping the field coils. The field coils have a little bit of residual magnetism that snowballs when the car starts to become the polarity of the generator when it is changing. All the other electrical stuff, motors and lights, do not care with the exception of polarized LED's.

Panheadguy 07-02-2025 06:08 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nkaminar (Post 2398065)
Pan Head Guy, Just to let you know, the polarity of the generator can easily be changed by zapping the field coils. The field coils have a little bit of residual magnetism that snowballs when the car starts to become the polarity of the generator when it is changing. All the other electrical stuff, motors and lights, do not care with the exception of polarized LED's.

You have been very helpful. Thank you for your input!


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