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Sometimes it is late at night (-or early, early morning) when I can't sleep and so I often try to find a YouTube video such as a Model-A topic to get relaxed where I can go back to bed. Some of these videos are SO upside down that I actually get more frustrated than I get relaxed, ...and this is a great example.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSCl2-kEQT4&t=288s

Now here we are the next morning and I realize that likely most people will never see anything wrong with this video, but the more I listened to him speak about a "Nu-Way" (Nu-Rex?? :eek:??) wrench, or the "dimple in the crank flywheel". ...and countless other things, I just shake my head in total disbelief that this is where our hobby (-and maybe society) is headed.

The irony is that Nu-Rex has, -or had an instructional video on this very topic on how to use this. Maybe if he would have taken the time to watch that video instead of trying to re-time it the 45 times, or whatever the actual amount he did, he would have helped more folks?? But then I would not have had the opportunity to waste about 10 minutes of my life scrolling thru the comments and advice he was given. :D Good thing AI will use those comments to assist others in the future!! ;) :rolleyes: :mad:

Have a great and productive day my friends!!

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Brent, this guy is scary. Please take all tools away from this joker. He said he did it 50 times and it is not right. He should be sued for wasting time in my already elderly life!

The sad thing is, almost 10,000 people have seen this video, and 155 people have subscibed, and how many decided not to buy the wrench. The same wrench that I have been using for years and love.

I wish that AI could delete this guy from planet earth.

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Brent, I'll make some new video content for you this month to fall asleep by.

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Just set the timing the Ford way, simple and easy, no special tool(s) needed. Been doing it that way for well over 60 years and never had a problem. No need to waste time watching videos.

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Brett:

I had your exact thoughts a week ago when I had a similar situation and chanced upon this same youtube video...One important thing to remember to do is "dislike" the video....I see he has 138 likes on this video but cannot see how many dislikes.

It does not appear this poster had negative intent...meaning he did not make this video to purposely lead people down an incorrect path...Appears more likely an ill informed person who could benefit from redirection...if they are willing to accept.

I chose to NOT subscribe to this fellow's channel...I don't need to see more erroneous videos...

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The guy apparently runs a body shop and builds hot rods (according to his profile).

This is exactly the reason I do all my own work on all my cars. The techs at the dealer are just part snappers and most of the independent shops around me are ran by guys like this. If you find someone who knows what they're doing, consider yourself lucky

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C'mon, people! Katy is right, besides typing his reply faster than I. :) Setting the timing in a Model A - REAL rocket science stuff that several entrepreneurs have turned into a virtual gold mine for themselves, selling every imaginable Rube Goldberg device to perform this VERY simple task. I get so tired reading page after page of periodic postings discussing this basic procedure. These cars are not Maseratis or Lamborghinis that need precision instruments to set the timing within a millionth degree in order to tweak every possible horsepower out of their engines. How did Farmer John and the world's po' folks during the Great Depression manage to do this without all these modern marvels of technology? Just set the initial timing the way Ford recommended since 1928 with a hand crank and inverted timing pin, and then tweak the distributor cam afterwards slightly clockwise or counterclockwise to dial in the timing to suit your driving style: a little more retarded for a slow idle (turn the cam clockwise), or a little more advanced for more power and speed (turn the cam counterclockwise). The engine will tell you by sound and feel if you have exceeded its limits. Listen to the engine and learn. That's all you need to set the timing: no strobe lights, timing degree wheels, indexed pulleys, special wrenches. Toss all those gimmicks and you'll experience fewer anxieties timing your Model A engine. Old timers here will agree. If you need all those band-aids just to set the timing, Lord help you if you ever tackle a rear end rebuild or a valve adjustment.
There. I feel better now, getting this long-time pet peeve off my chest. :) K.I.S.S. is usually the best way to go with our cars. Setting the timing is a perfect example.
Marshall

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I check U-tube when I'm working on something that I have no repair information about. Most videos are well done with good information of the subject but others illustrate the futility a person with no mechanical skills can experience when they have no idea what they are doing. Some are just flat "what not to do" videos. They are hard to watch and a person wonders why they posted them in the first place.

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At start up at the end of the video, sounds like it is only running on 3 cylinders and this guy is claiming victory. :rolleyes:

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Brent, You are one of the smartest and most educated persons I know, with regards to the Model A. You have a sixth sense when it comes to mechanical things. Many of the Model A owners are blessed with similar abilities.

However, there are many people in this world who do not have mechanical or electrical abilities and should not be allowed near a Model A under repair. That does not mean that those people are bad or somehow not human. They may be fantastic cooks or have a PhD in physics.

I think the correct thing to do is to point out those video's that are providing wrong or harmful information and refrain from criticizing the people who made them. You did point out the video and you did talk about how the information was wrong. Good for you.

Many many years ago I worked for Dr. Linus Pauling, a renowned scientist who won two Nobel Prizes. I had to adjust the points on his car, a Ford station wagon, and advise him on which wire in an AC system was ground (the green one). Albert Einstein, to his credit, never learned how to drive a car.

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I like how he says "sounds great"

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Thank you for the kind comment Neil but there is also a saying about 'A Wise Man Knows what he Doesn't Know!". Maybe that should have applied to this man?? As mentioned above, this man has basically mislead a hundred thirty something people based on the amount of people who 'Liked' that video, ...and no telling how many more who just did not take the time to 'Like' that video. :o

Anymore, Social Media is absolutely full of misinformation on the repair or restoration of a Model-A. Awhile back, a well respected Model-A parts vendor posted publicly that about 80% of the information you read on the internet about Model-As is incorrect. What an accurate statement that seems to be!! And FWIW, one of the biggest 'Spreader' of false technical information that I have seen on the Facebook Model-A pages is actually a political figure within one of the National Clubs. Sometimes it is so sad that it almost becomes funny. Ohh well.........

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I'm not sure that is limited to Model As. Seems to me that a significant portion of what you read on the internet about pretty much anything is crap.

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Watched most of his video, until finally realizing what his actual point was; he should have shortened the video (drastically), and changed its title to:
"Nu-Rex sent me a defective wrench".

Wouldn't have taken more than 30s to a minute to just get to the point, instead of meandering around for almost fourteen minutes.


His wrench:
https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...1&d=1718298002


Nu-Rex Wrench from Nu-Rex's website:
https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...1&d=1718298009

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Thinking about a couple of points to your theory;

A) We are assuming that the Nu-Rex Wrench was indeed brand new and actually defective.

B) It has the look to me as if the tang was sheared-off due to excessive force from someone who did not know what they were doing.


I suspect the wrench was used based on the shiny-ness (-or lack thereof) of it, so it could have been damaged before he received it. If it was indeed brand new, why not just call Nu-Rex directly and send a picture describing what was wrong. If it truly was new and defective, logic would suggest they would have sent a replacement immediately. At that point, the topic likely would have been much different.

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Concur that the tang definitely looks to have been partially sheared off/smaller than it should be - but my assessment (defective wrench) is based on the position of the tang itself - on a "good" wrench (i.e. based on the photo from Nu-Rex's website), the tang appears to be around the 4:30 o'clock positon, whereas the youtuber's wrench has a (much smaller) tang around the 1:30 o'clock position, 90 degrees off.

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That fuel line.....
I can't unsee this.

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Fred, I thought the very same thing!! And that Cath Bottle turned fuel jug hanging on the R/S Windshield Stanchion! :D :D

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Katy in post #4 had the right answer. Why even us the Nu-Rex Wrench?

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Brent is right on target. It is one thing to do stupid. It is really stupid to make a bad video with bad information for the uninformed to work with.

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I really hope this guy isn't on Fordbarn and reading about his effort being reviewed.

A person's knowledge and abilities differ greatly among people, even on this forum. We have both ends of the talent and knowledge spectrum here. Who knows, he could be completely ignorant, or perhaps he's doing the best he can and trying to share his knowledge. We don't know which side he comes from.

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However, one should not put himself out as an instructor unless he is well versed in the material. There is a subtle but significant difference between “this is how it should be done” as opposed to “this is how I do it”.

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Who said he did? His medium was you tube, yours is this forum. It’s an older video, perhaps he’s learned since then.

I’m not saying that guy or anyone here is wrong or right, just that we’re knocking him down pretty hard. We all started with no experience and knowledge on these cars, and this guy could be a valuable contributor here. We don’t know, because we never asked. Just jumped to conclusions.

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With all kindness and due respect to you, I am (-as you say) "knocking him down pretty hard" maybe because he kinda needs to be knocked down a little. Look at it positively, if he has learned since then, I would think he has the responsibility to either remove his video, -or make appropriate corrections as to not mislead viewers.

Without turning this political, it really comes across as this modern-day mindset of 'free speech' entitles folks were they can spew all levels of incorrect information without any ethics or responsibilities really needs to changed. Just because many others are doing it too really does not make it ok in many other's eyes.

And to your other point, if this guy is a valuable contributor here (-and I hope he is), I honestly would have no problem telling him to his face, or publicly explaining where and why he is wrong on so many levels with his video content. FWIW, I have been a member of Fordbarn since the early 1990s when Gus Stangeland invented it. For years, this forum was known for its factual information only. Even during the Shelley & Pete reign, it was understood that if someone didn't know the answer then they just didn't post a made-up opinion to someone's question. Then, it appeared this mindset started changing about 5-10 years ago where people would randomly post false info and then get hateful if you disagreed and even proved them wrong. This was not good for the hobby, and definitely wasted people's time & resources. Fortunately Ryan started banning people that would rather fight than just admit they were wrong. I also will quickly admit that Ryan scolded me several times too, so I wasn't immune to this but when you look around, it becomes blatantly obvious this forum has withstood the time and IMO is the best Model-A forum because you received honest and/or factual information here.

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Well ya, it is victory because originally it was running on one cylinder.:eek:

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There are way too many videos on how to time a model a on YouTube.

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His wrench is clearly ruined. It's a sharp point now and was a slot type of
protrusion when new.

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I hope he is, maybe he'll smarten up.

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I watch almost no A videos,and very few others.I do look at some equipment repair videos,not for the how-to,but to see what I will be looking at once I remove stuff on top.I just replaced a hose on a Bobcat excavator,and saw exactly where it was located in the video.I only had to remove 6 hoses to get at it,instead of the whole dozen the book says.

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Speaking of videos, Does anyone know of a good video of replacing a rear axel? We have to do this and never done one before.
Thanks for any help

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Common sense isn't taught any any school that I've ever known about. Some are born with more than others. A lot of it is more of the school of hard knocks. A person has to learn to take information of unknown origin with a grain of salt and just let people be as they are. I've known people that are genius at some things but totally lost at other things. It's hard for some folks to put their ego aside and just listen to others on things that they truly need help with.

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Brent- I too have been on this board since the Gus days, when it pretty much grew out of the Dallas club's website, and through it's transitions ever since. It's still the one I visit more often than others that have come and gone since then.

I think we're not doing ourselves any service here by starting posts that are critical of other's abilities. If we were so concerned about accuracy, we'd start with this site. Most posts have multiple suggestions and opinions, many that contradict each other. We mostly let them stand as is, and get recorded that way. They're often pulled up and referenced well into the future through searches. Think of how many people never participate on the forum because they searched and found the right answer, which is probably wrong, or one of three different answers.

Why not make this a teaching moment for the forum and video poster? How should the information be corrected? What is Brent's method to timing? How do you address your own employees when they've made a mistake? Post about it on a forum? Publicly confront them and tell them why they're wrong on so many levels? Or do you take the employee aside and point out the mistake, and show them how to do it properly? Then end the lesson with "let me know if you have any questions".

It's easy to criticize and forget that we all live in a glass house. If we want to attract people to this site, and to this hobby, being outwardly critical is not the way to do that. I can't believe we have to discuss compassion and understanding of another person's perspective in a thread like this.

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I couldn't follow the guy's video more than about 45 seconds, I was getting sea sick the constant moving-around of the camera, was getting nauseous.................

I agree with Brent, a LOT of what I see on YT videos that these guys put out, and what they are doing, is down right dangerous:)

In the words of Bart Simpson.... Aye Carrumba.....

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The "Self-righteous Brothers" have sung their song.

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Scary if it was permanent but I think its temporary with a fuel container hanging off the windshield post.

Looks like he took out his frustrations after timing it 45 times on that poor wrench. Its also bent.

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I think it's comical that this thread is about You Tube videos and no mention of________

That tells a lot.

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Ditto

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I read this online, and it’s undeniably true:
“First Facebook, and now YouTube, Instagram, and TikTok have so little valid content you’re better off ignoring them altogether. - Abraham Lincoln

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David, one of my favorite quotes from Honest Abe thanks for posting:)