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'32 front brake rod supports now unavailable???? The rubber ones! Newc

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Try Third Gen in TN. V8 Ford sales in SC.

For example.The 32-35 air line gas gauge kit has been out for quite awhile. It took all day calling (a week ago)every Vintage Ford parts stores and I found 1 in OK.Probably last one in captivity.

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And I'd bet that calling all day from Southern FRANCE ain't cheap! Coop

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Eaton Detroit Spring has a poster on website saying if you ordered springs through Ecklers, you are in for a wait. They haven't paid Eaton. FWIW.

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From the Eaton webpage:


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https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...5&d=1651552106

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DD,I'm fortunate to have unlimited Int'l calling on my cell and fiber optic WiFI plan. Sheldon

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Another reason not to order from Mac's. JMO

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Mac's is on my do not call list.

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I can't begin to count the number of times I have commented on their "SERVICE ?", and note that I have never been able to use the term 'good' along with the word "service". They're most-infamous for their shipping costs, as well as self-generating orders for folks already having an account with them. Or how about the guy in New Zealand having the WRONG part packed by this Florida outfit and shipped to him (at an exorbitant rate). Upon delivery, discovered wrong part shipped. Customer told to re-pack and ship back to Florida - AT HIS OWN EXPENSE! Only then, to be charged exorbitant shipping AGAIN - all for their inability to process order properly in first place. And NOW....they ain't paying the bills....and blaming unavailability of parts on supplier who CLEARLY has cut them off. I suppose that this is not what 'THEY' would call "lying", but it sure does rate right up there with telling the truth four or five different ways. This "SERVICE ?" has been going-on so long now that I permanently 'FIRED' this bunch of folks from my 'go-to' list when trying to get Corvette parts correctly ordered & delivered back in 1991! Don't understand how they have remained in business all this time! Furthermore, I don't understand why some of our friends here continue using them, only to be greeted by further disappointment and grief. Coop

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Me too! I have not bothered with them since Ecklers took over.
I use their catalogs for reference use only now. Too bad, as I loved it when they were only 75 minutes from my home in upstate NY. I went there countless times, it was nice to see the items before purchasing them. Some were good quality. Others, not so much! - F F

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I bought some small items from Mac’s years ago but quit using them because of quality issues. But several months ago, when I replaced the Mallory distributor on my ’34 roadster with an original type I needed a vacuum line and couldn’t find one anywhere else. The price was fair, the service was quick, and the vacuum line was perfect and was even bent correctly. Go figure.

I just checked. The vacuum line was purchased on 06/11/2021 and cost $27.42 which included sales tax and delivery. I guess I was lucky.

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Let's face it; the hobby is shrinking and the big companies that are servicing it for profit are going to be going by the wayside as the money to be made becomes less and less. Better we stick with the guys that are in it for the love of the hobby. Mac Van Pelt and Third Gen are prime examples.

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Several years ago, I bought a clevis and rod for between the clutch pedal and the throwout arm from Mac's. Threads on both pieces were TERRIBLE. A while later the good wife and I were passing through Lockport on vacation. I stopped by and told my tale to a counter person. They told me I must have gotten the only ones that were bad. Well, at least I have a 7/16-20 tap and die now.

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That's probably the best answer. The bulk of the car hobby is people with a little extra money restoring and supporting the cars they remember when they were 16. Assuming flatheads disappeared from the used car market by the time they were 10 years old, well, not many of us who went to high school after the mid 60's remember seeing them on the street. Car shows yes, but probably not the high school parking lot.



The peak now is probably cars from the 70's and by the time you get into the cars of the late 70's, the 80's and the 90's, I can't imagine too many people thinking of them with much fondness. A few maybe, but not that many. Has anyone seen a hot rod Chevy Citation or Chrysler K-car recently?


I actually do see people in their 20's at car shows but as often as not they'll have a survivor import sports car or just a late model used car with aftermarket wheels and graphics. Just like we did when we liked cars but didn't have the income to support anything but a daily driver.



Can't say what Eckler's motives are; probably survival. It doesn't look good. They probably overshot demand and have a lot of money tied up in inventories of cheap parts that will never sell.

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question is did you get a refund or just store credit if any

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I had a difficult time find a pair last fall. Try ER Milner in Georgia or Ford yesteryear Parts in Mason Michigan, I found a pair through these suppliers.
Drake is out of production on these I was told. Good luck, Paul J.

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I see on the H.A.M.B. that EMS cut them off also back in February due to non payment

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Have has problems with Ecklers as well....a couple orders never showed up. not much help from customer service.

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Since Cartouche is owned by Ecklers I wonder how long they will be around?

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I have avoided Ecklers/Macs for years For the known reasons.
I called Snyders to check on availability of Model T kick and door panels.
They were out of stock, but said they bought them from Cartouche since LB closed.. They said that I would get it quicker if I ordered from Cartouche directly.

On that addvice I ordered a set by phone. The lady was very helpful and I received the panels in 4 days. Quality was good. So I guess the Cartouche part is still OK.

John

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I have just about worn-out my computer's "WARNING" button trying to open the eyes of the un-initiated folks that continue ordering parts from this huge OLD FORD/CORVETTE parts conglomerate in Florida. There have been innumerable threads here on the 'Barn over the years, one complaint after another about these guys. Some refuse to take the hint. Complaints regularly cite ridiculous shipping charges, along with parts quality and total lack of customer service to correct such situations. More than one example of BIG parts wrongly packaged and shipped to New Zealand (huge freight bill), customer told to return at his expense (ouch), and more shipping charges to finally ship correct part (pathetic)! We've seen cases where THE outfit's computer has automatically "ordered" a part(s) for customers with existing accounts, parts show-up at customer address, with 'customer service' requiring that shipment be sent-back (pre-paid) for credit to be applied to customer's account.

I can't remember there ever being a thread geared toward pointing-out ANY good points about these folks. I finally had enough of the BS with this outfit and placed my LAST order with them back in 1991 while trying to satisfactorily order a bunch of old Corvette parts. Yet the complaints continue here with regularity. I don't get it! This is it....the LAST time I try to warn my fellow Ford enthusiasts. BEWARE!!

Coop/AMERICAN

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Totally agree.

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Parts availability in my experience is very low and shrinking.

In trying to order parts for a 40 Pickup I have run into the sad reality that almost everything is now unobtanium.

I don't expect many of these parts to ever be restocked because there is simply no market anymore.
How many 40 Ford Pickups are still out there waiting to be restored?

I've generally had good luck with all the major suppliers, including Ecklers. At this point if I need a part I order it from anyone that lists it still in stock.

That being said, I only do online orders, where in general I get an accurate in stock inventory from the suppliers computer.

If you look at a Bob Drake catalog you will see pages upon pages of 40 parts, that when checked online will quickly tell you are long gone, never to be seen again.

Currently my preferred supplier is Midwest Early Ford. They have been very good at quickly processing and shipping parts for me.

Kirk

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I thought I read somewhere that the new Bob Drake Catalog was about 40 % the size of the old one due to discontinued parts not being made.

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Wow! Good to know.

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Not to throw in a sales pitch, but we have 'em...
https://thirdgenauto.com/product/193...supports-pair/

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For those of you "Barners" that have not experienced the pleasure yet, this hard-working young couple (Michael & Jane Driskell) are the crux of what makes "3rd Gen Automotive" tick.


https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/pictu...ictureid=34346

As Michael infers above, he is not one that usually beats his own drum, but his 'OLD FORD PARTS' emporium is one of only two (that I can think of) left in existence today that regularly and personally participates here on the Ford Barn with parts help, advice, or just plain ol' comradery. When questions arise about parts or availability, Michael is here, up front and center, in an attempt to set the story straight, unlike what we are finding more and more of with some of the older, 'well-established' outlets that are evading real answers in some cases now-a-days.

While more than one of our established, regular parts outlets recently seem to be slowing-down, with at least one of note not even paying all of their recent suppliers' billings, Michael & Jane are becoming more established as time goes on, with new products appearing on their shelves with regularity. Call "3rd Gen" on the phone and ask to speak with Michael personally. His cordial and efficient handling of your parts needs will soon have you calling "3rd Gen" for the majority of your needs. If Michael and crew don't have your part specifically, he is well-qualified to head you in the right direction. With certainty, these guys have become THE premier old Ford parts source during a time when MANY of the others are thinning-out their catalogs.

Click the link BELOW for just a few pictures of what "3rd Gen" is all about!

https://www.facebook.com/Third-Gen-A...=page_internal

Coop/AMERICAN

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Agree. Only ordered a few things from Third-Gen, but each time Michael answered the phone and was very helpful.I was just digging around in my office for my Ford flathead books and came across their (Macs) catalogue from 2019 and tossed it. Lol!