Rebuld Vs Shock Conversion
 

I have a '46 Mercury and am trying to decide if I should purchase and install refurbished original style knee action shocks, or convert to tubular.



If going tubular are bolt on units available? So far I haven't located anything.


Thanks,


Ray Fournier

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Ray- It has been 10 years ago but I wondered about the same thing. I have a '41 Coupe. After asking the question to quite a few Ford guys the opinion I got was that the tubes were no better riding than the originals. I removed them during the winter and sent them to Houdaille for a rebuild. The car still rides just fine (for a '41).

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48 had tubular, and there was a ford retrofit kit ---what are you lubricating your spring with?, springs and shocks have to work together, the fittings on the springs are for spring lube which is a thin oil and talc in suspension, grease will make the spring stiff, and block the passages to the tips of the leaves

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Although my shocks seem find but If I could find rear kits then I could put the coil helpers
only to raise rear about 2-3 inches.. I don't like tail draggers. Front 4 fingers (tire to fender) rear no fingers. rear spring looks good nothing worn may need rearched??
A Kit maybe air shocks...that would work:: Low rear will effect caster:: sam

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Apple Hydraulic seems to have a special if four shocks are purchased, four for $588. Maybe that is the way to go.

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You are correct! But, by sitting lower, the caster is MORE POSITIVE (not a bad thing) by "ABOUT" 0.8291 degrees. By raising the rear of frame 3", caster will go LESS positive (back to stock again) by roughly 0.8291 degrees. So yeah, it'll affect the caster by slightly less than 7/8 of ONE degree.
DD


Wheelbase: 114"
Axle C/L to wishbone ball C/L: 42.5" (approx.)
Above ratio: 37.28%
Raise rear at axle C/L: 3"

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Be careful of "Apple Hydraulics". Do a couple of internet searches before you decide to send them anything.

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Tubman And the reason is.............?

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Here's ONE example from a post last year. DD
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08-07-2019, 09:26 PM #15 john greco
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https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/images/icons/icon1.gif Re: Who rebuilding shocks now
I sent back the same shock to apple 7 times , before it was fixed , 7 times , and it was $ 920. For the 4 , plus return shipping 4 times , never again

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OK. Thanks.

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Here's THE preeminent shock-rebuilder guy that several here are using. Highly recommended! DD


Andy Falandes is still rebuilding them. He took Bill Wzorek's business when Bill retired.

andy falandes <[email protected]>

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The reason is they do crap work. They destroyed a rare set of concourse correct (early 39) shocks of mine. Destroyed, as in "junk".
When there's a guy like Andy out there doing GOOD, HONEST work at a fair price - why even consider anyone else?

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I second Mike's recommendation as Andy is the go-to source for quality shock absorber restoration.

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Just received my rebuilt (remanufactured and perfect) shocks for my 37 pickup from Andy Falandes. Perfect! I couldn't be happier with this Christmas present.
Thanks Andy.

Bill Wyckoff

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On my '41 fordor I Installed chassis Eng. rear leaf springs which lowered the raer a couple inches. lowered front by removing every other leaf and tried all sorts of tube shocks. eventually settled on my original Houdailles. that was the best ride quality I could get. What i liked about the Houdailles was I could ad.j the shock stiffness any time I wanted.

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Kudos to Andy Falandes,AKA andys.shoxs.com Just received a rebuilt rear pair for for a '35 Cabriolet for a friend here in France. We bought them outright since sending the cores off the car were cost prohibitive. They now are installed and owner of the '35 is very pleased.

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I have used Andy Falandes for shock rebuilds, quick turn around and quality work. While I have never used Apple, I have heard too many bad things. I'm staying away from Apple.

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I'm 6000 miles in on 4 shocks rebuilt by Andy. No leaks and they work great!

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I would not allow Apple to wash my driveway much less touch any of my shocks.

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I've managed to aquire a couple sets of the adaptors that would allow me to put tubular type shocks on my '35's. I didn't buy them intentionally....they just happened to come along with some collection's of part's I purchased or was given.
However, I do prefer using the original Houdaille shocks on my cars, and I don't know of anyone better than Andy Falandes to rebuild these original type shocks. I know he was personally trained very well by the late Bill Wzorek(RIP), and I have never heard of any problems with Andy's work.

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Yes sir!

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I use early Camaro shocks front and back, and make my own brackets. However the stock springs are very stiff compared to a modern car of the same weight, It's hard to soften the spring rate and keep ride height the same. All of this is expensive, trial & error!!
Gramps

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I'm not sure if ford did anything special with their frames when they went to tube shocks in the front but I installed stock ford tube shock mounts in the stock shock holes on our '41 and developed hairline cracks radiating out from the holes. welded a plate to the outside of the frame. later went back to stock shocks to get a better ride. was almost like the frame was being twisted