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Gumpy 01-03-2011 01:31 PM

Drakes 40 coupe old vs new?
 

If you have seen Drake's brochure for the new 40 coupe whats

your opinion of it?

hotcoupe 01-03-2011 01:49 PM

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i saw the car [what was completed at that time] at the L.A.Roadster Show and it looked good. but the problem that i see is that the stamped sheet metal `40 parts that i have ordered from him in the past [headlight buckets and fender braces] were flimsy. i believe the material they were stamped from was a significantly different alloy than what hank used. everything [stamped sheet metal parts] that i bought from Drake was shipped back to him. jmho

okiedokie 01-03-2011 04:24 PM

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I have not seen the new 40 in person. I just happen to be ready to install headlight buckets. I have the original assemblies, which I intended to restore and use. However, at the local swap meet last year I found a bunch of Drake parts that were new and unused for a great price. Guy had backed out of a 40 build. In that purchase were two new repo headlight buckets. I just pulled the originals out for comparison, as far as I can tell they are the same thickness of metal. I see nothing "flimsy" about the repro's.

Coupe35 01-03-2011 07:21 PM

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If the bodies are anything like his 34 running boards, watch out. Will not fit.

barryfromvictoria 01-04-2011 03:35 AM

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i saw the 40 at the l.a. show and hershey. not much more done in the 4 mo.s between shows. very impressive though. the body was all mocked up but not welded together. the detail on the floor pans and body panels is closer to original than anything on the market today or yesterday. now if it all fits together properly, [fitting a body together effiently is no small feat either] he will have a real winner. if it doesn`t we will have lots of good parts to restore the original bodys. either way the 40 enthusiast will win

sturgis 39 01-04-2011 01:56 PM

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Will a stock frame be manufactured? I would be interested if I could purchase a stock frame with the body. Has there been an estimate of the price? I like the 39 deluxe and the forty standard but would settle for a 40 deluxe.

jsemple6392 01-04-2011 02:09 PM

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I also saw the '40 body at Hershey. It is quite a feat of engineering to say the least. I would love to own one! I would not worry about the metal. Bob drake pays better attention to detail and workmanship than most in the business. He would not put his name on it if it were made of inferior metal.
Just wish I could afford one...

V8 Bob 01-04-2011 02:42 PM

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I bought a '40 lower rear repair panel from Bob Drake for my coupe about 20 years ago. I temporarily "clecoed" it in place but never finished the install as the car became "dormant". The panel fit the trunk good, but not the fenders.

This last year I bought the new panel B.D. had on sale. It is heavier gauge, with better detail, and fit the fenders great, but not the trunk. The car was in a body shop having the fenders straightened, and I asked which panel they would use. They chose the new panel, even though they had to reform the recess to match my trunk. They liked the detail and strength of the new panel, and blamed some of the fit problems on the fact my trunk lid had been hit/damaged years ago, and although visually repaired, could be slightly out of spec.

My point is if the new '40 body is of the same quality as the repair panel, it should be very nice! I have purchased a lot of parts from B.D. over the last 30 years, and know for a fact his parts are the best, for the most part, than anything else on the market.

boman5 01-05-2011 11:59 AM

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read it again Tom! it says "they're NOT crude, hand fabricated sheet metal that's thinner than the originals.

Gumpy 01-14-2011 08:57 PM

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btt

shoeboxer 01-15-2011 05:44 PM

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I love drake. However, when we toured their facility most of the manufacturing was moving to China. Can anyone verify that the 40's are being produced in the U.S. Because the Chinese production could be the factor leading to the "Thinner material."

Gumpy 06-11-2011 11:25 PM

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anyone assembled a drake coupe?

JM 35 Sedan 06-12-2011 09:55 AM

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I've seen the brochure and his display at Hershey and at the EFV8C/A 2010 WNM in St. George, Utah. All looked good to me. I have to wonder if it was not for Bob Drake who else in today's economy would have taken on a project of this scope and magnitude? If you have any specific questions regarding this project you could always send a pm or email to him since he is a registered Ford Barn member.

Coupe35 06-12-2011 06:43 PM

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I too agree that the drake 34 boards do not fit. The arc is way off. Did not fit the frame. Other then not fitting they look nice.

oldford 06-12-2011 06:46 PM

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HIs 34 boards did not fit my frame either. I do not get it. Isn't it just as easy to make something right as to make it wrong. Why go to all the expense of making running boards when You plan on not making them correct.

Kube 06-12-2011 08:38 PM

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[QUOTE=jsemple6392;137612] ... He would not put his name on it if it were made of inferior metal.
Really? Must be a different Bob than the one I am thinking about. The one I am thinking about is #1, motivated by profit and #2 motivated by profit.

barryfromvictoria 06-13-2011 12:56 AM

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gumpy--- i`m going to the l.a. roadster show this week. will give a up to date report on drakes progress on the 40 coupe.

Gumpy 06-13-2011 09:19 PM

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ok---please pm me Barry if you find out anything new....maybe a few photo's if you have time.....thanks Gump

V8COOPMAN 06-14-2011 01:20 AM

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[QUOTE=Kube;222854]
Quote:

Originally Posted by jsemple6392 (Post 137612)
... He would not put his name on it if it were made of inferior metal.
Really? Must be a different Bob than the one I am thinking about. The one I am thinking about is #1, motivated by profit and #2 motivated by profit.

KUBE kinda has a way with words, doesn't he? One thing for sure, maybe... I THINK I know how he feels about "THE Bob". DD
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Gumpy 06-16-2011 07:35 PM

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btt

296 V8 06-18-2011 01:51 PM

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No matter how nice it is …. Is there a market for them? Iv seen no shortage of solid 40’s.

Gumpy 06-19-2011 08:42 AM

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from the photos ive seen looks like a good fitment......even using a quarter section into an old body!

Gumpy 06-28-2011 11:48 PM

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Barry find out any new information?

Lawrie 06-29-2011 12:22 AM

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The 33 running boards I got from drake could not have fitted better,I was VERY satisfied.
Lawrie

barryfromvictoria 06-29-2011 02:26 AM

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gumpy i saw drakes 40 again at this years roadster show. its looking better in its proped up stage. the roof is still not fastened. i forgot to ask bob about the completion date as we were talking how confused every body is about which floor fits what model [ conv, opera coupe, business coupe, 5 window coupe, club coupe, coupe chicken coupe ]. you have some restorers who insist that every one call the coupes what they perceive is correct and most others that call them by what has made sense for the last 71 years even though it may not be technically correct. most people figure if it has opera seats its an opera coupe . if used together the two rear floor sections that bob makes for a NON opera coupe will fit a conv as is, with no cutting contrary to whats written in bob`s catalog. the original conv rear floors were made out of three sections but were the same stamping as the non opera coupe. now i`ve got myself confused i think.

al pa. 06-29-2011 07:29 AM

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Right on,Bob

al pa. 06-29-2011 07:32 AM

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The "right on" statement was not for drake

JM 35 Sedan 06-29-2011 07:33 AM

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My opinion.... I'm glad that Bob D has taken on this project regardless of some possible slight differences between his product and the original Henry '40. It has always been a dream for me that someone, maybe even FOMOCO, would someday bring some of these icon early Ford V8's back into at least limited production. Maybe owners of original '40's are concerned that Bob's '40 will devalue their cars but based on the Brookville '32 not devalueing the original '32's, they probably have nothing to worry about. JMHO

Now my real dream is that someone will bring an all steel '35 or '36 3 window coupe back into production :rolleyes::)

al pa. 06-29-2011 07:34 AM

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My mistake,the "right on"was for Kube

JM 35 Sedan 06-29-2011 07:54 AM

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Al, just a friendly FYI, the software on this forum will allow you to go back and edit your original post rather than making addition posts to try to clarify other statements.

joel 06-29-2011 09:48 AM

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Thanks, Grumpy, I wondered about that myself.

Gumpy 07-13-2011 09:04 AM

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purchased his sheet metal parts in the past.....who wouldnt want to drive a lighter 40?

GreenMonster48 07-13-2011 02:21 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 296 V8 (Post 225584)
No matter how nice it is …. Is there a market for them? Iv seen no shortage of solid 40’s.

I wondered the same thing when they came out with the "new" 67 Mustang Fastbacks. By the time you buy and build it, you could have just got an original. I've seen a lot of smokin deals on 40's lately.

Just looked at the brochure on BD's site for the 40. He shows $14,500 for an estimated price. Ouch.

Dick 07-13-2011 04:48 PM

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Talked with a friend in Missoula today that got two rear quarter panels, rear pan, trunk pieces etc. Said in a word "excellent". Perfict fit and metal was the same thickness as his original car. The pieces are installed and he's more than happy with the parts. Waited a long time and many calls to BD.

296 V8 07-13-2011 09:41 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GreenMonster48 (Post 238473)
I wondered the same thing when they came out with the "new" 67 Mustang Fastbacks. By the time you buy and build it, you could have just got an original. I've seen a lot of smokin deals on 40's lately.

Just looked at the brochure on BD's site for the 40. He shows $14,500 for an estimated price. Ouch.

I know
I got this one for my dad. Just how it sits in this photo for 15.
Needed a few things to get running and iv seen better deals since.
http://pic90.picturetrail.com/VOL220...7/66553642.jpg
I like Drake and his stuff but this may be a few years to early or its just for rich guys having bragin rights.

xix32 07-14-2011 05:58 PM

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here's the competition, http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=539557 was $19,000 six months ago, now $17,000 still for sale. and it's real ford, with a title.

Gumpy 07-14-2011 07:07 PM

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prefer original parts but if repo fits and can not find anywhere I will use there sheet metal

bangngears 07-16-2011 09:12 AM

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I agree with 296 v8,a 40 can be found at any time.Hope Drake didnt jump the gun.

Gumpy 07-16-2011 07:04 PM

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but is there a perfect rust-free no replacement panel 40 out there....I live in calif and we have some rust here in the northern regions

Gumpy 07-21-2011 06:21 PM

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anyone see drakes coupe at the los angeles roadster show or any other show?


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