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Bick in New Zealand 04-28-2017 05:36 AM

Rare and expensive A for sale.
 

Not often that you see one of these for sale.

https://www.earlyfordv8.org/classifi...biles&id=10853

Joe K 04-28-2017 06:00 AM

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Interesting.

It would take someone really up on their game to properly evaluate this vehicle for "correctness." Town cars have a lot of "non-standard" details.

Joe K

ronn 04-28-2017 06:30 AM

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looks like a fake ad to me?

Canadian engine? what's that about? replaced?

2manycars 04-28-2017 06:34 AM

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Tim Kelly would know about this car. He lives not far from where it is stated to be, and already has 2 town cars. There is another not far from me, in a private museum.

BRENT in 10-uh-C 04-28-2017 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by 2manycars (Post 1465145)
Tim Kelly would know about this car. He lives not far from where it is stated to be, and already has 2 town cars. There is another not far from me, in a private museum.

Basim owns SMI Auto Brokers, and deals in high-$$ & high-quality merchandise. Pretty sure his clients are rarely Fordbarn participants. :D His price reflects a "you gotta start somewhere" attitude. I hope he is able to sell it at, -or near that price with the new owner 110% happy with their new 'investment'.

Jeff/Illinois 04-28-2017 07:51 AM

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Maybe it is a typo, and he put the comma in the wrong place OR it is in Pesos not dollars:)

Licensed to kill 04-28-2017 08:58 AM

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Not really he focus of the post but I found this statement interesting "and to get the company into the prestigious high-end market that was dominated by Packard, Cadillac and Buick." According to a video shared on the barn a few days ago about the V8 in '32, it clearly stated that Ford was in the high end market with the Lincoln?.

HoarseWhisperer 04-28-2017 09:19 AM

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Cannot locate a engine #CA400194? The highest # being CA150120. :confused:

WTSHNN 04-28-2017 10:59 AM

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$44,000 per picture.

-Tim

foxfire42 04-28-2017 11:54 AM

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The pictures are not clear enough to see some of the "give away" details. I wish more were posted. Some features are questionable to me but not being an expert I'm only going by the previous discussion several weeks ago. For now the trunk rack is the later style.

Beauford 04-28-2017 12:08 PM

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I'll have to send this to my financial planner. When I said I was doing a restoration on a old car he said now that's a good investment. Then I told him it was a Model A and he shook his head.

Synchro909 04-28-2017 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Beauford (Post 1465284)
I'll have to send this to my financial planner. When I said I was doing a restoration on a old car he said now that's a good investment. Then I told him it was a Model A and he shook his head.

Beauford, Please send me your planner's name and number!!!:D

johnneilson 04-28-2017 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Synchro909 (Post 1465420)
Beauford, Please send me your planner's name and number!!!:D

Yeah, my current one asked "Whats a Model A?"

Glenn C. 04-28-2017 08:13 PM

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My wife said: I suppose you want to make plane reservation to go look at it?

Karl 05-01-2017 04:08 AM

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I'm afraid it does nothing for me - I would have just as much fun in a standard Fordor.
It "might " be an investment but I suspect at 177k initial expense this money could be used to buy other cars which would have a larger potential buyers market and hence appreciate faster -Karl

Frank Miller 05-01-2017 06:51 AM

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You could buy 4 Model As in various body styles to suit your needs and have 100 k left over for maintenance.

updraught 05-01-2017 07:42 AM

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So, they were an odd ball back in the day, and ended up as taxis, and are expensive now because most got wrecked.

Licensed to kill 05-01-2017 09:22 AM

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It's all about the 5 words that drive collections of any kind "I have it, you don't".

SeaSlugs 05-01-2017 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Karl (Post 1466433)
I'm afraid it does nothing for me - I would have just as much fun in a standard Fordor.
It "might " be an investment but I suspect at 177k initial expense this money could be used to buy other cars which would have a larger potential buyers market and hence appreciate faster -Karl

Agreed, while I can appreciate the rarity it doesnt do much for me. I would get much more personal enjoyment out of a dinged rusted faded paint patina car.

Kinda like a Winchester Model 1898 shotgun for example, most are honest use guns around $300, I'm not paying you 10X the value because its got a rare upsidedown stamping somewhere....BUT there is someone somewhere that has more money than they know what to do with and CAN buy it so just like this car it will be bought.:p

Hicktick 05-01-2017 11:22 AM

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For that kind of money , I would be looking for a dual cowl , Packard about a 32 or 33
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mshmodela 05-01-2017 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by SeaSlugs (Post 1466516)
Agreed, while I can appreciate the rarity it doesnt do much for me. I would get much more personal enjoyment out of a dinged rusted faded paint patina car.

Kinda like a Winchester Model 1898 shotgun for example, most are honest use guns around $300, I'm not paying you 10X the value because its got a rare upsidedown stamping somewhere....BUT there is someone somewhere that has more money than they know what to do with and CAN buy it so just like this car it will be bought.:p

Like my 1925 $220 Mosin Nagant... Yeah not a K98 but still fun. Car will be sold for sure.

CHuDWah 05-01-2017 04:58 PM

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Bob Johnson 05-01-2017 07:15 PM

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The pictures do not show enough details for me to make a definitive judgment but from what I can see it is not an original Model A Towncar. The front seat is incorrect. The partition is wrong. The front door panels should not have a pocket. The wiper is not plated. The rear door garnish is incorrect. I am sure there are other issue but I can not tell without better pictures.

Bob

asapguy 05-01-2017 07:44 PM

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Many yrs. ago in the mid 60's I saw a Model A Town car parked on the street in downtown Los Angeles. I owned a nice 30 CCPU at the time. I left a note asking if they were interested in a trade. That person is probably still laughing. I didn't know they were rare at the time just thought it was neat looking. In 1971 I bought a 1935 K Lincoln V-12 with 145" WB. It only had 29K miles & I got it for $1500. It was a lot more classy & quality built then the Model A Town car but not as rare. 900 Town cars built & 1356 K Lincolns.

Bob Johnson 05-01-2017 08:39 PM

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I looked in my records and this is the car which belonged to J. Richard Alford. There was mention of it in The Restorer Vol 31 Issue 6 page 18 (March-April 1987). Here is the text of the article.

J. RICHARD ALFORD of El Centre, California only recently found his Town Car in a backyard in Tucson, Arizona. The engine had been replaced at some time with a Pinto engine and the original was nowhere to be found. There was no hood, the cowl lights were missing as were the running boards. The rear section of the body had suffered from having no roof, no upholstery, no seats and the glass in the divider section was missing. Mr. Alford has a big project ahead of him to restore this car but he is determined to do it and do it right.
An old registration found in the car shows that it was registered in Arizona on March 5, 1975 in the name of Bob Baker and gives the serial number of the car as #A 659619. When the body came off the chassis this number was confirmed as that stamped on the chassis rail. The original engine, then, was manufactured during November 1928. This agrees with a firewall date for assembly of December 10, 1928. There is no body number. No earlier history on this car is known at this time. Mr. Alford purchased this car in the fall of 1985 from Mr. Tom Fitzpatrick of Tucson, Arizona

I have not seen this car in person so I can not say for sure it was originally a Town Car. However since it was missing many of the original parts that might explain why many of the parts are not correct.

Bob



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