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BamaFord 02-23-2015 03:44 PM

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I am 19 years old and a college student studying business finance and economics at the University of Alabama. In my free time I love to work on cars. I have worked on anything from Late 90's BMWs, to a 1979 MGB and a 1947 Correct Craft Boat. I am now on to a 1930 Model A I have pulled out of the barn. This belonged to my grandfather who has passed away and took with him most of the information about the car. I am trying to identify the body and history of this old woody. If anybody may know anything about this car or body it would be greatly appreciated.

More pictures can be viewed here:
https://www.icloud.com/photostream/#A1JtdOXmJ8YP2I

Gunmetal blue2 02-23-2015 03:49 PM

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I just wanted to say welcome and nice A.

Tom Wesenberg 02-23-2015 05:06 PM

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It's a nice homebuilt woody, and I would just lube all the moving parts and make sure the brakes and mechanicals are good, then drive it and enjoy it as is.

mshmodela 02-23-2015 05:21 PM

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Yeah car has a history unto its own --keep it as is...

jkcrosson 02-23-2015 05:25 PM

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Nice car to leave as is and enjoy. So what part of Alabama are you from when not in school.

Curly 02-23-2015 06:21 PM

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Very cool car. Welcome.

Jwilli 02-23-2015 06:31 PM

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You have a wonderful Boy Toy. Enjoy.

1930artdeco 02-23-2015 07:30 PM

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Welcome and that is one really nice car!

Mike

BamaFord 02-23-2015 07:52 PM

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Thank you for all the welcomes! I am sure I will have many questions as I begin to start this project.

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Nice car to leave as is and enjoy. So what part of Alabama are you from when not in school.

I am from Montgomery, Alabama.
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Originally Posted by mshmodela (Post 1039098)
Yeah car has a history unto its own --keep it as is...

And should I not at least repaint the hood? The paint is peeling very badly and starting to rust.

tbirdtbird 02-23-2015 08:10 PM

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We have a very knowledgeable member here, Purdy Swoft. He is in Alabama also. You might do a search for him using the advance search function and drop him a PM. You will find him to be very helpful.

Nice car! Good to see another one being saved!
Good luck and post here as much as you want, we will try to be helpful, too

glenn in camino 02-23-2015 08:40 PM

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Interesting custom woody. Restore as needed, drive and enjoy. The Ford Barn will help you with answers to any questions. Have fun.

Mike V. Florida 02-23-2015 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Wesenberg (Post 1039088)
It's a nice homebuilt woody, and I would just lube all the moving parts and make sure the brakes and mechanicals are good, then drive it and enjoy it as is.


Ditto!! Seal the bare metal from continuing to rust.

1930artdeco 02-24-2015 03:41 PM

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And should I not at least repaint the hood? The paint is peeling very badly and starting to rust.[/QUOTE]

Not necessarily, chip away the peeling paint and then seal it with WD-40(?) or I think people have used motor oil(?). Once you paint the hood then you will have to paint the rest of the truck so it will match.

Mike

BamaFord 02-25-2015 12:00 AM

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I would be willing to pull the body panels/fenders off the car to get them repainted. How hard could that be?

Tom Wesenberg 02-25-2015 12:35 AM

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You only have to please yourself, but I would first dust it off, lube it, and drive to to a few shows. You'll soon find people like to see it just the way it is now, plus it saves you work and money.

Not George 02-25-2015 06:26 AM

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Not hard to pull and repaint the panels, but as others have stated it is beautiful just the way it is.
It is only original once.

Very, very, very cool!

Neal 02-25-2015 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by BamaFord (Post 1039203)
And should I not at least repaint the hood? The paint is peeling very badly and starting to rust.

Hard to tell from the pictures but I would guess that if careful, you could repaint the hood and get it to match.

Nice car, good luck. Keep us posted.

Neal

RonC 02-25-2015 09:00 AM

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Paint the truck body on. Just remove the fenders and hood and mask off the rest. It will be a fun project for the summer. Do lots of research on current types of paints. Find a professional to shoot the color paint but work with him on how you should prep and prime

Gumpy 02-25-2015 10:36 AM

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A restoration may take years, & then you will not enjoy drivin the car in your youth,...mine sat for 11 yrs until i got to it...drive and enjoy now!

Tom Wesenberg 02-25-2015 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Gumpy (Post 1040087)
A restoration may take years, & then you will not enjoy drivin the car in your youth,...mine sat for 11 yrs until i got to it...drive and enjoy now!

I know of two drivers that were taken apart more than 50 years ago, and they are still apart. At least drive it for a year or two before you decide, and you might realize it's great as it is now.

1930artdeco 02-25-2015 11:55 AM

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Another thing you may want to consider is seat belts. Since you have no side protection-like a door to keep you inside.

Mike

stewwolfe 02-25-2015 12:36 PM

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Seat belts are a really good idea. Aside from that, do whatever pleases you, but by all means drive it. Don't let it become a perpetual project. A pile of metal in the corner of the garage just takes up space. A running (maybe rusty, but drivable) car gives enjoyment!

JohnLaVoy 02-25-2015 07:50 PM

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Welcome! Looks like you are going to have quite a project that will pass on some family history. I would look at making contact with a Model A chapter close to where you are. visit MAFCA.com there is a list of chapters there with contact information. You will find most of the people in this hobby very helpful and willing to show you how to work on projects.

jkcrosson 02-25-2015 08:08 PM

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Central alabama model a ford club is in Montgomery. It's a great club

BamaFord 02-27-2015 05:54 PM

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Central alabama model a ford club is in Montgomery. It's a great club

I am definitely going to be contacting them. My grandfather was a member of their club here.

BamaFord 02-27-2015 06:00 PM

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And just to clarify from comments earlier in the thread, does my Model A have a one of a kind custom wooden body on it?

CWilson 02-27-2015 09:31 PM

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The body reminds me of the trucks they use for hunting quail down south, especially Georgia. They run the dogs while hunters ride in the truck. Once the dogs go on point, the hunters hop out and have the dogs flush the quail. Might be a reason there are no sides, and 2 benches. Like this one.
http://i836.photobucket.com/albums/z...ps3kooea5q.jpg

BamaFord 03-20-2015 05:27 PM

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Got the Model A all cleaned up! My next step is to clear the fuel system. I see the tank is built in right behind the instrument panel. It will need to be flushed out thoroughly. Any advice on how you guys clean out your old fuel tanks? I may either just flush it with gas/chemicals or if need be I may be able to pull it out. Also I want to get a new carburetor. Which modern version gives the best performance?

hardtimes 03-20-2015 05:37 PM

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Got the Model A all cleaned up! My next step is to clear the fuel system. I see the tank is built in right behind the instrument panel. It will need to be flushed out thoroughly. Any advice on how you guys clean out your old fuel tanks? I may either just flush it with gas/chemicals or if need be I may be able to pull it out. Also I want to get a new carburetor. Which modern version gives the best performance?

Welcome aboard !
Heck, you don't need any different paint on your A. It looks great with dirt cleaned off :) ! Must have had GOOD storage, eh !!

BamaFord 03-20-2015 05:47 PM

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The hood on this side is the worst panel on the A. I'm not sure what to do about paint for it. Everything else on the vehicle is in great shape.


Also, check the shared album for high quality photos. I am doing this from my iPhone and can't upload high quality pictures here.

https://www.icloud.com/photostream/#A1JtdOXmJ8YP2I

hardtimes 03-20-2015 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by BamaFord (Post 1054188)
The hood on this side is the worst panel on the A. I'm not sure what to do about paint for it. Everything else on the vehicle is in great shape.


Also, check the shared album on the first post of the thread for high quality photos. I am doing this from my iPhone and can't upload high quality pictures here.

That area of hood adds 'character' to a very beautiful vehicle...as is ;) !
I agree with others here, who have advised to just coat it for now and drive it , till you fully make up mind to change. As you will find it hard to change it BACK to what it is now, if second thoughts later !

Guys nowadays, pay big $ to have a 'clear coat' put over old vehicles with great 'patina'..as it's called. Your A , so just answering, eh !

1929 03-20-2015 06:05 PM

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beautiful piece of history, keep it in the family

Pilotdave 03-20-2015 07:55 PM

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Since your grandfather belonged to the Central Alabama club, perhaps you can learn a fair amount about your car by talking with the members there.

Also, you asked about a modern replacement carburetor - suggest that you talk with some other Model A owners before deciding to switch out the carb. If you have a well-tuned original type carb on the car it should run just fine.

And welcome to the Barn!

HoarseWhisperer 03-20-2015 08:33 PM

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There's probably many of us that had the urge to "tinker" with our first Model A and couldn't resist trying to improve the aesthetics. So we did, and took our shiny vehicles to shows only to become envious of the originals that drew the admiring crowds.

Mechanicals first, then maybe the rest.....maybe. ;)

Mike V. Florida 03-20-2015 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BamaFord (Post 1054169)
Got the Model A all cleaned up! My next step is to clear the fuel system. I see the tank is built in right behind the instrument panel. It will need to be flushed out thoroughly. Any advice on how you guys clean out your old fuel tanks? I may either just flush it with gas/chemicals or if need be I may be able to pull it out. Also I want to get a new carburetor. Which modern version gives the best performance?

There is no need for a "modern version". Get the one on the car rebuilt buy someone that really knows about the carbs. I vote for Bert's in Denver.

If for some reason your heart is set on a modern version you are going to have to decide if you want up draft carb and the original manifold or a down draft and purchase a new manifold.

Big hammer 03-21-2015 08:05 AM

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Welcome! My vote is leave like grandpa left it! Just repair what is needed to get it running. You will get big grins and thumbs up when your driving grandpas car! Heck i'am giving you two thumbs up now :-)

jhowes 03-21-2015 09:16 AM

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My advice is to be careful if something doesn't work. Learn to test first and locate the problem, so many start by replacing what they espect could be the issue only to find they have created more porblems. The original parts are usually the most reliable and Model A guys are always helpful. I agree that you should drive it a few years first then you will make a more informed decision. Have fun

jboggess 03-21-2015 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom Wesenberg (Post 1039956)
You only have to please yourself, but I would first dust it off, lube it, and drive to to a few shows. You'll soon find people like to see it just the way it is now, plus it saves you work and money.

No offense, but Its all very cute to take to a show a couple times unrestored, but after a while you get the reputation of being the neighborhood hillbilly, and also it pisses the people off who put the labor and money in to make theres nice, a little wet sanding and a cheap coat of paint wouldn't cost much.

Mitch//pa 03-21-2015 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by jboggess (Post 1054492)
No offense, but Its all very cute to take to a show a couple times unrestored, but after a while you get the reputation of being the neighborhood hillbilly, and also it pisses the people off who put the labor and money in to make theres nice, a little wet sanding and a cheap coat of paint wouldn't cost much.

i dont get pissed off or feel that way about drivers brought to shows...i enjoy it when there are more model A's no matter what the condition....

Rex_A_Lott 03-21-2015 10:47 AM

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I think its pretty cool that you have resurrected a piece of your family's history.
Enjoy it ! As is, or whatever you decide, its yours. As far as being the neighborhood hillbilly, it aint so bad once you get used to it.:) Dont worry about pissing off the ones with the super-nice cars, some of them are super-nice people too...and some are not, no matter what you're driving.
As far as the carburetor goes, a lot of times a good cleaning and blowing out all the passages is all that's needed. Certainly worth a try before you run out and buy a new one.
Good Luck!:)


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