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Tod 05-20-2014 10:31 AM

New block update 3.
 

I just finished boring the cylinders in the first sample block. They came out very well. Not a mark in them. I cut them .005 under so they can be honed to size. That pretty much does it for the top end.

Later today I plan to set the block up in an HMC and begin machining on the sides and ends. After this, I will be able to test fit most, if not all, external bolt-on parts. I happen to be running flywheel housings and heads for Snyder right now so that will give me fresh parts in house to bolt on.

That will leave the cam and crank journals and the main oil galley.

I will be sending pics out to people who have requested them.

Tod

Franchise_24 05-20-2014 10:43 AM

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Thanks for the update Tod. Very exciting!

mshmodela 05-20-2014 10:49 AM

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Great work Tod! I for one thank you for doing that which is needed --esp. since so few today have the skills to even try what you're doing.

Tod 05-20-2014 11:21 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mshmodela (Post 880479)
Great work Tod! I for one thank you for doing that which is needed --esp. since so few today have the skills to even try what you're doing.

Don't be impressed. It really isn't very difficult.

Tod

George Miller 05-20-2014 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Tod (Post 880500)
Don't be impressed. It really isn't very difficult.

Tod


It would be if you never have done it.

mshmodela 05-20-2014 05:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tod (Post 880500)
don't be impressed. It really isn't very difficult.

Tod

bs! :)

Mike V. Florida 05-20-2014 05:16 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tod (Post 880500)
Don't be impressed. It really isn't very difficult.

Tod

Nothing is difficult if you know how. The know how is difficult.

bikejunk 05-20-2014 07:56 PM

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thank you its amazing I cant get a garbage can lid to fit properly let alone cast and machine a piece of history !

Jim Brierley 05-21-2014 10:58 AM

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tod, no need to allow .005 to be honed. i only leave .0005 - .001, thus requiring less honing, which is hard work if doing manually. goog luck on the rest of the project!

Tod 05-21-2014 11:19 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Brierley (Post 881095)
tod, no need to allow .005 to be honed. i only leave .0005 - .001, thus requiring less honing, which is hard work if doing manually. goog luck on the rest of the project!


Thanks for the input Jim. On this first one I wanted to make sure it could be take out to stock size even if it needs a light boring first.

This morning, in between running production and running some errands I cut the water outlet on the side. I will be spending today and this evening getting the sides and ends cut.

Tod

Tod 05-21-2014 05:30 PM

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Today, in between production, and at the end of the day, I was able to finish up the side water-outlet face and bolt on a borrowed water-neck. Looks good. Then I faced the valve cover side and drilled/tapped all those holes. I need to get some bolts to fasten everything on but I did put studs in and fasten on an intake and one of my cast iron tube headers. Everything looks good on that side also. So far, so good.

Sorry it is taking so long but my primary use of machines is production. It is time consuming to put something in without fixturing and plow through it. It will get there. Please be patient.

Tod

Tom Wesenberg 05-21-2014 06:53 PM

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"Sorry it is taking so long but my primary use of machines is production. It is time consuming to put something in without fixturing and plow through it. It will get there. Please be patient."

Not a problem.:)
We've only been waiting 85 years for a new engine.:D LOL
Glad to hear it going well so far.

tbirdtbird 05-21-2014 08:47 PM

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We will continue to be patient; you are on our side! A very worthwhile endeavor indeed; keep up the good work.

Gold Digger 05-21-2014 09:31 PM

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It sounds like good news Tod. I've been following along with this for a long time and can't remember what kind of crank you plan to use in this new block. Is it pressure feed or original type. Somebody bring me up to speed.

Dusty 05-21-2014 10:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tod (Post 880500)
Don't be impressed. It really isn't very difficult.

Tod

Yea, I'm cranking these things by the dozen in my little garage:rolleyes:

P.S. what I would really like is a diesel engine that looks like a Ford Flat head four that is about 200 HP gets 45 mpg and still sounds like a Model A:)

Still dreaming in WV soon to be head south
dusty

Tod 05-22-2014 05:22 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gold Digger (Post 881432)
It sounds like good news Tod. I've been following along with this for a long time and can't remember what kind of crank you plan to use in this new block. Is it pressure feed or original type. Somebody bring me up to speed.

Pressure feed is the plan.

Tod

Mitch//pa 05-22-2014 07:02 AM

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thats great Tod
three successful updates so far in the same month of the same year...
wow the impossible now seems obtainable

thanks for the update are you able to post pics at times??

Tod 05-22-2014 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Mitch//pa (Post 881551)
thats great Tod
three successful updates so far in the same month of the same year...
wow the impossible now seems obtainable

thanks for the update are you able to post pics at times??

Mitch, I will be sending out some pics today. I am running to Fastenal to buy some bolts to bolt on the valve cover and side cover. I started to cut the rear end of the block but ran out of time this morning. Production comes first.

I did cut the front cover surface to length but didn't have time to drill and tap the cover bolt holes. I measured the length against a stock block and it looks good.

Tod

Crazydaddyo 05-22-2014 09:19 AM

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Pictures....YAAAAAAAAAY!!!!!!

I can't wait!!!!!!!

.

Bill in SoCal 05-22-2014 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Tod (Post 880466)

I will be sending pics out to people who have requested them.

Tod

Tod, I would like to see the pictures. I think a lot of others would too. Bill

Nodakwalleyer 05-22-2014 10:58 AM

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Just seen some pics of new block machined, looks great! Really coming together nicely!

Tod 05-22-2014 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Nodakwalleyer (Post 881693)
Just seen some pics of new block machined, looks great! Really coming together nicely!

WOW! That was a fast response. I just finished sending out 3 pictures to about 20 people.


Tod

Mitch//pa 05-22-2014 11:10 AM

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how do i get the pics???

Tod 05-22-2014 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Mitch//pa (Post 881703)
how do i get the pics???

Email me at blockheads2014 at yahoo dot com

Tod

392roadster 05-22-2014 11:15 AM

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Wow!!! Sounds great!!!...... Price? Pics? Avail.?

Dodge 05-22-2014 11:21 AM

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Tod,
Pictures look great. It looks like you've really got a handle on it. And guys, this is coming
along a lightning speed when know what this takes.
Keep up the good work. This is very exciting.

G Baese 05-22-2014 11:58 AM

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Tod,
Thanks for the pics! A new Model A block is no longer a dream, its an impressive reality and this is the guy that made it happen.
Best regards,
geary

Russ/40 05-22-2014 12:17 PM

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Looks like a very clean casting. Your moving right along at a break neck pace!

Tod 05-22-2014 12:48 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ/40 (Post 881748)
Looks like a very clean casting. Your moving right along at a break neck pace!

It's a pretty nice casting considering the mold and cores were old and just made for test fitting, as well as not even having a gating system set up for it.

The pace is not nearly quick enough for me.

I have to finish the rear of the block so I can mount a flywheel housing, and then I need to drill and ream the lifter holes, main oil galley, bore the cam and crank, and drill the oil galleys from the main galley to the crank. I also need to do the oil pump hole. A few more days, I suppose, and then I can hand it off to Prus Jr. to build for me. Hopefully, it will run right off the bat.

Tod

Tom Wesenberg 05-22-2014 12:56 PM

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I know of a good original 1928 Phaeton that could test drive that new engine for you.:D

Tod 05-22-2014 12:59 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Wesenberg (Post 881757)
I know of a good original 1928 Phaeton that could test drive that new engine for you.:D

And just who might have that? Let me guess - your wife's husband.

Tom Wesenberg 05-22-2014 01:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tod (Post 881759)
And just who might have that? Let me guess - your wife's husband.

Still single, but if a wife comes with the new engine, that would be OK.:D

Tod 05-22-2014 01:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Wesenberg (Post 881763)
Still single, but if a wife comes with the new engine, that would be OK.:D

I guess we could start a side business "A-Harmony dot com." We have all the hot babes. Must love cars.

tbirdtbird 05-22-2014 02:32 PM

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The pix are awesome, Tod. We are salivating here in my shop.......

34 FORDOR 05-22-2014 02:33 PM

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Tod thanks for the pics and update. Guys this block is looking real nice Tod is doing a great job, he has the skills and contacts to pull this off.

Tod 05-22-2014 04:28 PM

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We had to knock off a little early today because my grandson is "graduating" from pre-school or kindergarten, or whatever it is, this evening. Since we shut down production early I had some time to work on the back end of the block. I was able to get all the holes drilled and tapped and set a flywheel housing against it. Looks good at first hurried glance. I had to leave so I will have to finish up in the morning and bolt it on. That will be the last part to bolt on before moving on to the cam, oil galley, and then the bottom.

I'll send out a round of pics when everything is bolted on including a head.

Tod

Mitch//pa 05-22-2014 04:36 PM

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Yea mon"

tmiller6 05-22-2014 05:23 PM

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Tod,
I got the photos when I checked my email at work; I am sitting home recovering from eye surgery and you probably got my away message. What I saw in the photos is darn exciting. That is one high quality casting and the machine work is beautiful. I can't wait to see this engine run.

motordr 05-23-2014 06:06 AM

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Looking good, great job Tod!

C26Pinelake 05-23-2014 06:23 AM

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I must say I am truly impressed with your skills and professionalism. I can't wait to see the finished product.
Wayne


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