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petehoovie 03-23-2025 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by GB SISSON (Post 2378430)
Thanks for the vote of confidence Dale. I just now read a thread on the Hamb detailing a '57-'72 9" from an f100 under a jailbar 1/2 ton. This afternoon I whipped up a crate made from 1" and 3/4" scrap plywood that fits a 9" third member. It is glued and screwed, will have a screwed down plywood lid, then banded with steel banding. This empty crate will head to Minnesota tomorrow to be returned with the great pumpkin.

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...5&d=1742781498

cas3 03-23-2025 11:04 PM

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:DLets see the inside...I'd be disappointed if there no carved out cradle for it to sit secure

GB SISSON 03-23-2025 11:36 PM

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When I offered to build and ship a crate, he gave me tight inside dimensions and then we decided he could through-bolt the yoke to the box. How bout putting the thing in a trash bag and unloading a can of expanding foam in there? Ok Two trash bags.....and quick with the banding.

ford38v8 03-24-2025 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by GB SISSON (Post 2378458)
When I offered to build and ship a crate, he gave me tight inside dimensions and then we decided he could through-bolt the yoke to the box. How bout putting the thing in a trash bag and unloading a can of expanding foam in there? Ok Two trash bags.....and quick with the banding.

Get the wrong foam and that crate will bust wide open. Those handle holes might just save it, but I wouldn't bet the bank on it.

sidevalve8ba 03-24-2025 08:45 AM

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GB,
In my not so original '32 pick-up I have a 9 inch rearend that does a fine job. I did upgrade the front brakes to '55 F-100's and I am pleased with the outcome. I too am using a T-5 behind a 276 inch '50 Merc powerplant. You won't be disappointed.

GB SISSON 03-24-2025 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by sidevalve8ba (Post 2378514)
GB,
In my not so original '32 pick-up I have a 9 inch rearend that does a fine job. I did upgrade the front brakes to '55 F-100's and I am pleased with the outcome. I too am using a T-5 behind a 276 inch '50 Merc powerplant. You won't be disappointed.


Hmmmm, do those front brakes bolt right up? What range of years would I be looking for? Oh, and I was sort of kidding about that foam. Things can go wrong real fast with that crap.....

sidevalve8ba 03-24-2025 11:06 AM

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I am using '47 passenger spindles and yes, they do bolt up to them. But I am not sure about your application. I am sure someone will jump in and enlighten us. The '53-'56 F-100 brakes are the same as far as I know. I hope this helps.

GB SISSON 03-24-2025 02:56 PM

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Thanks sidevalve, I wonder how much of an upgrade over regular jailbar front brakes. Bigger or different system? in the old days of trucks, they always had big ol brakes on the rear and car-like brakes on the front. As technology evolved, it seems like there's more emphasis on powerful front brakes today. And I just shipped the empty crate.... 21.23 lbs! I couldn't stop myself from gluing and stapling in some 45 degree inside corners at the last minute and there's two 10' rolls of perforated steel 'plumber's tape' attached to the crate's floor to circumnavigate the perimeter with on the return trip.

petehoovie 03-24-2025 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by GB SISSON (Post 2378599)
Thanks sidevalve, I wonder how much of an upgrade over regular jailbar front brakes. Bigger or different system? in the old days of trucks, they always had big ol brakes on the rear and car-like brakes on the front. As technology evolved, it seems like there's more emphasis on powerful front brakes today. And I just shipped the empty crate.... 21.23 lbs! I couldn't stop myself from gluing and stapling in some 45 degree inside corners at the last minute and there's two 10' rolls of perforated steel 'plumber's tape' attached to the crate's floor to circumnavigate the perimeter with on the return trip.

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...5&d=1742846162

sidevalve8ba 03-24-2025 03:56 PM

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That is a stout box, GB. Industrial strength I would say. Those F-100 brakes are 11X2" if I remember correctly. Don't know if that is bigger than what you have but they are easy to adjust and stop well. I, unlike some folks, am kind of partial to drums.

flatford8 03-24-2025 05:16 PM

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Gary…thats a nice looking crate…did I miss who you are using for a shipper?……. hope things are well way over there….we got a second shot of winter today……..Mark

GB SISSON 03-24-2025 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by flatford8 (Post 2378633)
Gary…thats a nice looking crate…did I miss who you are using for a shipper?……. hope things are well way over there….we got a second shot of winter today……..Mark

We got 1 1/2 " of rain yesterday, but mid 60s spring day forecast for tomorrow.
I sent the empty out on UPS, Lanny has suggested shipping it back it back via Fedex. The weight is going to come in around 83 lbs. If that should be over their limit, I have no doubt we will come up with a suitable alternative.

flatford8 03-25-2025 07:55 AM

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I sent a motor to Texas last year with Fastenal……don’t know if that’s an option but it went well for me…….if I can offer a suggestion, a couple of 3”x3”or 4”x4”blocks under two bottom edges so a forklift can under it, might not be a bad idea. That way a lift operator would resist the temptation to try and put a lift truck tine thru the handles, if its heavier than they’re expected to lift by hand……….Mark

51504bat 03-25-2025 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by flatford8 (Post 2378750)
I sent a motor to Texas last year with Fastenal……don’t know if that’s an option but it went well for me…….if I can offer a suggestion, a couple of 3”x3”or 4”x4”blocks under two bottom edges so a forklift can under it, might not be a bad idea. That way a lift operator would resist the temptation to try and put a lift truck tine thru the handles, if its heavier than they’re expected to lift by hand……….Mark


Don't know where the third member is coming from but Fastenal doesn't ship east to west or west to east. I believe the dividing line is the Mississippi River or there abouts. But it's been a while since I checked with Fastenal about shipping so things may have changed.

Bored&Stroked 03-25-2025 08:48 AM

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Damn Gary . . . I think you need to be in the "custom box building business" . . . have never seen such a nice wooden box to ship a greasy ole' car part! They really should attempt to "tie down" the 3rd member . . . with some layers of cardboard underneath it. Almost any regular insulation will get beat down during its travels . . .

flatford8 03-25-2025 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by 51504bat (Post 2378754)
Don't know where the third member is coming from but Fastenal doesn't ship east to west or west to east. I believe the dividing line is the Mississippi River or there abouts. But it's been a while since I checked with Fastenal about shipping so things may have changed.

The motor I shipped went from Maine to Texas…… can’t go much further west than that from here….. Mark

51504bat 03-25-2025 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by flatford8 (Post 2378774)
The motor I shipped went from Maine to Texas…… can’t go much further west than that from here….. Mark


Direct from the Fastenal web site:


The key is consistency. Because 95% of our routes are static (trucks running fixed routes through the night to service our branches and customers), we’re able to provide consistent service and control transportation costs.

Fastenal does not currently offer shipping between East and West Zones as shown on below map.

Fastenal does not offer transportation services between the US and Canada.



https://www.fastenal.com/content/mer...p-1110x661.png

GB SISSON 03-25-2025 12:06 PM

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I looked at fedex site.... 150 lbs. With 20' of perforated steel strapping in the box, some could be used to loop over it in the box and screw down to floor, which is 1" plywood. Yes, cardboard where it fits too and I think he's gonna bolt the yoke through the box side.

Lanny 03-25-2025 12:26 PM

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Hi Gary, I'm waiting for a Blue Lane Rep to call me with some details on shippng.
Talk to you then by phone.... thx, Lanny




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GB SISSON 03-25-2025 12:47 PM

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I have the utmost faith in you to send it off in the most reasonable way possible.


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