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If you break it, I can guarantee it wasn't on a gav housing.

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I to would be interested in one or two. Always like using the proper tools for the job.

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This is the second socket. It is not stamped or heat treat and tempered yet. Once it is heat treated it will be a black finish like a typical impact socket. Sorry for the poor quality of the pictures.

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I have a couple of the 13/32" open ended, but would be interested in obtaining the socket if possible.

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I just noticed you are from canada. No problem getting you a socket when they are done, would just have to adjust the shipping cost since you are outside the US

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pm sent.
bob

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Understood, and thanks!

Things were much simpler when I lived in the US. :rolleyes:

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If you sent me a private message, I did not get. Have gotten others, but do not see any from you.

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Count me in. I will buy just to keep the Model A spirit alive!

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Put me down for one

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I think you already have about 50 "sold" right here. If the blank price goes down with a 100, you might want to consider it.

Also, there is no shame in making a few bucks for yourself on the deal.

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Want 2. Bob

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Due to the enthusiasm since this thread started, I have requested a price for 100 blanks. Unfortunately they were giving me a pretty good deal in the first place for 50, and the price for 100 was only .30 cents per piece cheaper. Big problem is, the manufacturer I am obtaining the blanks from does not like to give them up since they count on them for their runs, and selling me some in quantity screws up their production runs. The runs they make for normal sockets in this size range is in the thousands which is why none of the reputable manufacturers want to make this socket. They figure they can't sell a thousand plus, so they are not interested. When they make a run, there is a plus or minus 10 percent commitment, and selling me the blanks just brings them closer to their minus 10 percent which I can understand. Everything they do is in bulk like annealing, heat treating tempering, so on and so forth, and poundage for each of the processes really counts for their manufacturing cost as far as furnace and machine utilization.

If we look at the good side, at least I have the contact and can get blanks which makes this process even possible for all of the folks who would like one at a reasonable cost. There is only one size blank I know of that I can use to make this a perfect socket for this application.

I know this blank will be used probably for a long long time, so I am not worried about getting them for an extended period of time, but remember, this blank is being taken out of the middle of their production run. This all starts as a solid piece of steel in an automated process, and I am getting them to spit out perfectly good parts in the middle of the process prior to the end broaching and such. This requires an operator to basically instruct the cnc machine to only do part of the operation and spit out unfinished parts during the process for some period of time. This in turn causes an issue with predetermined tool wear and everything else in the process.

At this point due to the interest I think I am going to tool a bit differently, which will be more expensive right now, and obviously no immediate payback, but I, like you am thinking 100 is probably a real number over time as people find out about this socket. And the tooling I am considering will make it easier to do small batches down the road while keeping the cost to the end user at a consistent reasonable number.

I think alot of people would put a high price on these and sell to whoever, just to make some money. I however would like to make these so that everyone can afford to buy one from now to eternity, not just those with deep pockets.

As I stated previously in this thread, I only made this thing to help my father and give him something no one else had. I honestly did not believe it when he said people would be interested in this tool, since I figured there had to be something somewhere that people could get their hands on. Apparently I was wrong, and my goal now is basically to make this available to the masses who will appreciate them.

I honestly am not looking at this as a money making opportunity. As I told my father tonight, due to the interest, I am quite content doing this pretty much just for the bragging rights so to speak. Of course I would like to cover my cost at least, but the fact that I can provide people with something that no one else can or is willing to do, kinda makes me feel good.

Hopefully everyone understands this.

Just to add a bit about my background, I own a business that deals with large multinational corporations. Probably anything you have in your house that is on a roll (toilet paper, saran wrap, foil, and actually even your q-tip brand q-tips) has probably at some point been processed on the equipment I have designed manufactured and supplied. I also supply equipment and services to every tire manufacturer in the world with the exception of Bridgestone/Firestone.

So as far as the sockets, believe me, I can make money spending my time elsewhere, but I enjoyed this challenge presented by my father, and hopefully have found a way to provide everyone with this (apparently much sought after) unicorn so to speak.

Once the car club provides their review Tuesday or Wednesday on this socket (hopefully positive, lol), we will provide our pricing idea to everyone, and I am hoping everyone will be pleasantly surprised. Obviously not gonna be dirt cheap, but definitely in line with a top quality impact type socket in a comparable size range.

Not real sure why I wrote all this other than to assure you I am looking at every aspect of this venture to try and keep the cost of this tool as reasonable as possible.

I do appreciate the suggestion, and if you or anyone else has any other ideas, I really would love to hear them since I would love to make these as cheap as possible.

One other thing to mention here just so everyone knows. Every single thing with regard to these sockets is 100% USA. Blanks, tooling, and even equipment used to manufacture is all USA. It has already been mentioned subcontracting the production of these sockets to a company in China which would be really really cheap. I however will not even consider this option regardless of the savings. Just not gonna happen, and if someone suggests it again, they will not be purchasing one of these sockets from me.

Sorry for writing this rather lengthy dissertation, lol, but again I thank everyone for the interest in this project and look forward to moving forward in a positive manner.

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Thank you for your efforts in making this tool.
I would also like one. Jim

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Music to my ears! :cool:

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Put me down for 1. Thank you

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Most Ford Barners are so sick of the cheapo does-not-fit chinese crappo that they have all gone back to the 'Made in USA' slogan. Myself included long ago.

A breath of fresh air here.

and I don't think it really matters at least not to me what it costs to have something this special

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Now this is a joke fellas, so don't get bent out of shape.

Forever4 just came up with a great marketing idea. Anybody that backs out after the price is announced, we will just post their info on here to let everyone know they are cheap, lol.

Now I would never ever do that so it is just a joke, however, it does bring up a good idea.

We have a count of how many sockets guys would like now, and I believe it is either right at, or over 50. I am figuring at this point I will probably just run 100. But with forever4's comment, we probably will contact all those who expressed interest once we release the price to be sure the interest is still there.

I think I probably have more faith in all these folks than you do forever4, but I am obviously a newbie to this whole thing. That being said I appreciate your comment and will verify the interest level once again after the price is announced. Of course something tells me alot of people are following this thread and once we put the price up most people will reaffirm their commitment. Who knows, there may even be a bunch of lurkers just waiting.

Guess we will see in the next couple of days. Hope everyone here is doing well.

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I'd like one also.
Al Leach

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Leaving now to go to the Sullivan Trail Model A Ford Club meeting. Will report how the members liked or disliked this socket later tonight or first thin in the morning. Should also be able to report the sale price. Bill Haag

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I would like to buy one, also.

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I will take one!

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Ok Folks, as far as I understand, the car club members reviewed the socket, and according to what I have been told, they all liked/loved it.

Hopefully tomorrow they will be providing their unbiased reviews on the 13/32" socket and what they really thought for all of you to read for your own edification.

It appears we can account for over 50 pieces at this point, so my plan will be to manufacture 100 in the first run. Subsequently in order to do this in a reasonable time frame I will be purchasing some different tooling. Having accounted for all the cost, and again, doing this for a labor of love and not making money, I am counting on getting my cost back with this run of 100 once they all sell. The different tooling will then allow for smaller runs after the first 100 at the same cost to the end user, if demand is there for whatever reason.

Again, hopefully everyone understands what it actually takes to produce this top quality socket without cutting any corners, and hopefully the club members who have put their hands on this socket will confirm this for you on this thread.

So here we go. The pricing we have decided on for the socket is $24.00 US Dollars plus shipping. Flat rate shipping through usps is approximately $6.00. And apparently you can order more than one, and it will still only be $6.00 for the shipping.

I am not asking anyone to pay anything now. It will take approximately 3 weeks to complete the run of 100 due to my current shop load, and schedule, as well as acquiring the blanks and tooling. Once they are complete, we will notify everyone individually who has expressed interest, as well as post it on this thread.

In the mean time, I realize some may not want to pay this much, which is fine. But would all of you who expressed interest, please reaffirm your interest at this point via this thread, private message, or email. I am assuming most will still be interested, but I don't wish to purchase tooling and such, and then end up in the hole on this project. I am also planning to pass this information along to each individual who expressed interest via private message or email as well.

I am not planning on purchasing the blanks or tooling till the end of the week just to make sure the interest is still there at this point. And it will take about a week maybe a little more to get the blanks.

Once the first run of 100 is complete, we will notify everyone who previously expressed or has re-expressed interest with regard to how to purchase. At this point purchasing will probably be via credit card through paypal unless other arrangements are made on an as need basis.

Bill Haag, Jr.

P.S. Thank you all for your interest in this project, I feel honored to be able to help with this apparent need.

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I'm in!!!

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Count me in for one.

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I am not gonna mention the name of the one guy who just pm'd me, but it was funny.

His comment was "I am not gonna be the guy at the next car show that can't brag about having an actual socket to fit the GAV on this "explicative deleted" carb.

Didn't say wether he wanted one or not though, so pm me back and let me know, lol, I am assuming you want one, lol.

Thanks for the support, lol

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I just thought about posting that and it sounds like a sales pitch. I am sorry for posting that. But you know who you are and I will not reveal you since I found that really frickin funny since you didn't tell me wether you wanted one or not, lol. Sorry folks, probably should have kept that one to myself but I am still laughing since it sounded like some sort of peer pressure do it even though I don't want to situation, lol.

Sorry, can't stop thinking about forever4's comment, then this comment, I hope I live through this laughing fit to actually make these darn things, lol.

Once again I apologize, lol, and no, before anyone asks it wasn't forever4 that sent the pm.

Bill

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I will take 2

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thats a very fair price for the socket and for those of us that work professionally with quality tools all know this.
i am in for more than 1

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I'm with Mitch. It's a fair price for a quality socket and I'm still in for one.

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I'll take one.

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I'm still in for one, but want to run this by our club and see if we can't get several on the same order.

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I was at Walmart today. They had 2 sets of sockets that contained a 13/32 deep well socket. one priced just under $10 and a larger set just under $20. They are import, so how well they will fit, I don't know. Might not be worth bringing home, but they are available.

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Am trying again to get photos of Bill's socket posted. Uploading is a no-brainer, system simply isn't working right now, 3 fails, tried 5 pix all at once, then only 1. Will keep trying, have contacted fordbarn administrator.

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Try converting the pictures to a lower resolution. (size)

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800px or less on the longest side for jpegs

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But, are they 6 point, and are they open enough for the GAV to fit deep enough for the hex to engage the socket?

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That was my thought also Tom. Plus,,,,Walmart,?:confused:,,,,China,?:mad:

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As I stated they might not be worth bringing home. I too would be interested in buying a quality USA made socket.