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Ian1932 11-20-2019 07:19 AM

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Pete, how did you post pictures real big like you did? They look like screen shots almost...Thanks!

V8COOPMAN 11-20-2019 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Ian1932 (Post 1823290)
Pete, how did you post pictures real big like you did? They look like screen shots almost...Thanks!


Ian....Coopman here! Look at the pictures as posted in Post #11. They're the small size. If you click on one of those pictures, it becomes LARGE. Then, you just go through the same, necessary steps to post the pic in it's now-enlarged form....like below! DD


little!


https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...1&d=1574180328




BIG!


https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...7&d=1574180328

Tim Ayers 11-20-2019 09:17 AM

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Do you think there is enough of a market to remake or repop these? Seems like the basic frame is steel stock and the mounts and receivers are cast.

With CNC, I don't see it being that complicated to make. I'd be willing to look into it.

V8COOPMAN 11-20-2019 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Tim Ayers (Post 1823329)
Do you think there is enough of a market to remake or repop these? Seems like the basic frame is steel stock and the mounts and receivers are cast.

With CNC, I don't see it being that complicated to make. I'd be willing to look into it.


John (JM 35 Sedan) would likely buy your first one. That big, round hoop and it's associated support look to be the most complicated part of it (if you want to replicate it authentically). DD

Tim Ayers 11-20-2019 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by V8COOPMAN (Post 1823339)
John (JM 35 Sedan) would likely buy your first one. That big, round hoop and it's associated support look to be the most complicated part of it (if you want to replicate it authentically). DD

I'm thinking the hoop should be simple (a cut piece of correct diameter pipe) and then weld rings around the outside. Do those slots in the ring do anything like lock it in place?

I'll need to really look at one closely to figure it out.

Mart 11-20-2019 10:01 AM

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Are the pieces that bolt on centred on the camshaft centreline, or a little bit higher or lower? They shouldn't be too hard to fabricate.

I was thinking that wheel rims of a suitable size could be used (in a cut down form) for the circular part.

The advantage of this type of stand is that one bank can be held vertical which is possibly useful if trying to soak the pistons in the bore. Not to mention it is supported at both ends.
Mart.

flatheadmurre 11-20-2019 12:01 PM

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They are centered around the camshaft letting you remove/install cambearings and camshaft with gear attached.
The slots for locking lets you rotate it for several positions including boring each cylinderbank.
I still have a couple of boringbar plates that let you bore the early ones without removing the studs.

V8COOPMAN 11-20-2019 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Tim Ayers (Post 1823341)
Do those slots in the ring do anything like lock it in place?


Those slots appear to be spaced every 45 degrees. If you look at the big ring in picture, there appears to be a knob on the bottom. It's likely spring-loaded when you pull it downward, pulling a pawl out of the locking slot on the bottom of the ring, so that you can rotate the engine to whichever slot you desire to re-lock it in. DD


https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...5&d=1574015935

Ian1932 11-20-2019 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by V8COOPMAN (Post 1823389)
Those slots appear to be spaced every 45 degrees. If you look at the big ring in picture, there appears to be a knob on the bottom. It's likely spring-loaded when you pull it downward, pulling a pawl out of the locking slot on the bottom of the ring, so that you can rotate the engine to whichever slot you desire to re-lock it in. DD


https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...5&d=1574015935


Yes that is how it works. Its actually quite easy to do.

Here are pictures of the one my father built from scratch. Its actually much more beefier than the one i first showed, the original. My dad could make anything...Im not kidding. When i was looking at it i found all the parts for a 3rd stand that he also made at the same time. It just needs welded together. Just the base portion actually. The steel he used is much heavier and has brass casters that re-purposed. Im going to weld that stand together soon as its all cut to length and should be rather easy. Ill do the same and find some old heavy casters somewhere...

1952henry 11-20-2019 01:36 PM

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Coopman is holding tightly to the info about the two newer stands he pictured.

V8COOPMAN 11-20-2019 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by 1952henry (Post 1823418)
Coopman is holding tightly to the info about the two newer stands he pictured.


I located those two stands (that's ONE picture) somewhere floating around the internet. I looked for them again yesterday and was not able to find the pic again. That pic was mixed-in with a bunch of images of modern day junk engine stands. There was no identifying info with that picture.....sorry! THE Coopman shares ALMOST all of my VERY limited knowledge!! DD

1952henry 11-20-2019 09:03 PM

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Aha, not being coy then. I know that path of not being able to find an image. I saw a Model A doodle bug picture that I cannot find again. What was different was it had front wheel assist. I can't remember if the front differential was a Model A or a Marmon Herrington commercial front drive axle.

V8COOPMAN 12-05-2019 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by 19Fordy (Post 1822377)
It would be neat to see one supporting a flatty.


Jim....When it rains, it seems like it pours! Here are some more pics that popped-up just this morning on the forum WITH engines mounted. Thank you Ian! DD


https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...9&d=1575568386


https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...8&d=1575568386


https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attac...0&d=1575568386


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