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1939 pickup truck 12-20-2014 10:54 PM
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Fellowship, camaraderie, respect, trust, and a sense of humor are key to life...
So it takes a bit of time to get it done... but the story is the best part of it all...
I also appreciate the machine shop video presentation, the way to go if you can..
This begs a question to you who have seen them, "Royal King Pin Kits" for $$$
Seems one can fit needle bearings into an original axil set up with special pins...
Anybody seen one of these installed, worth additional cost, clever idea & maker.
~"T"~

ian Simpson 12-20-2014 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by tbirdtbird (Post 1001540)
There was a very interesting article in the Restorer many many yrs ago. The writer had somehow stumbled onto the machinist who had machined up the first Model A prototype rear end for Henry to use as a springboard for production. Henry recognized the superb skills the guy had and gave him a roadster off the line fairly early on. The guy was very moved by this and never drove the car. The writer wanted to do kingpin bushings and wanted to borrow a long reamer for this. The guy said he didn't have one. He told him to just remove one bushing from the spindle. The upper wears more than the lower, so he said remove the upper. Press in the new bushing. Ream with a regular reamer, the lower bushing acting as a guide. Then go ahead with the other bushing. While this method may not be 1000% accurate, it has always worked for me, surprisingly well.

I have long since misplaced this article, but those of you with an extensive library of Restorer magazines will be able to find it. It would go back approx 25-35 yrs ago. The entire story made for a very good read. Maybe one of you will be able to locate it and post the issue.
This is a first. tbirdtbird and I have disagreed on several occasions in the past, but this time I agree with him. Must be Christmas or something. I used the same technique several times when renewing the bushes in a Velocette motorcycle swinging arm. (Velocettes were one of the few to use phosphor bronze bushes in this way.)

All the best of the season to all.

Ian

Tom Wesenberg 12-20-2014 11:53 PM
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Our club has a reamer in the club tool kit for the members to use.

If you mail anything, be sure to use Fed Ex or UPS if you don't want the tool to get lost or damaged. The post office has lost two of my recent purchaces, and damaged a third. Either I'm on their hit list, or they have an extremely bad track record.:mad::mad::mad:

Henry1953 12-21-2014 01:39 AM
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I just finished replacing these bushings on my 30 coupe. The reamer from Snyders did a perfect job and is was very easy. The finished job has absolutely no play. Steering is much improved with the shims under the king pin bearing. I didn't know to do this 20 years ago.

C26Pinelake 12-21-2014 01:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Tom Wesenberg (Post 1001619)
Our club has a reamer in the club tool kit for the members to use.

If you mail anything, be sure to use Fed Ex or UPS if you don't want the tool to get lost or damaged. The post office has lost two of my recent purchaces, and damaged a third. Either I'm on their hit list, or they have an extremely bad track record.:mad::mad::mad:
Tom. I totally agree with your suggested mailing procedure. I am waiting for a starter for my 31 Chev that was sent 3 weeks ago by regular mail. Even though I sent money required for UPS the sender decided to save me money and sent it regular mail. Hopefully tomorrow will see it arrive. Wayne

Mike V. Florida 12-21-2014 02:10 AM
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Originally Posted by C26Pinelake (Post 1001653)
Tom. I totally agree with your suggested mailing procedure. I am waiting for a starter for my 31 Chev that was sent 3 weeks ago by regular mail. Even though I sent money required for UPS the sender decided to save me money and sent it regular mail. Hopefully tomorrow will see it arrive. Wayne
Where does the tracking # say it is?

CarlG 12-21-2014 02:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Brobrian (Post 1001235)
Gentlemen,
Do any of you have the long reamer used to properly ream the bushings for the king pins? If so, would you be willing to lend it to me? I figure I could pay for shipping from here to Mars and back more cheaply than paying the $150+tax+shipping that Snyders is asking.
If not, it's okay. I can pay for the tool. I do have two A's and may use it again someday...
Isn't owning a Model A basically an excuse to buy more tools?:D

C26Pinelake 12-21-2014 04:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike V. Florida (Post 1001656)
Where does the tracking # say it is?
Tracking number says enroute / in transit between pickup and first postal station and has not changed in 3 weeks. Wayne

Tom Wesenberg 12-21-2014 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by C26Pinelake (Post 1001671)
Tracking number says enroute / in transit between pickup and first postal station and has not changed in 3 weeks. Wayne
That's exactly the case with the wire terminals I ordered a month ago.:mad:

I know I'll never see the taillight I bought on ebay 3 months ago, that the mailman dropped off in the neighbor's mailbox. Too bad the neighbor was dumb enough to stick it back in the mail. Too mistakes sure has it lost forever now.:mad:

caboose 12-21-2014 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by CarlG (Post 1001658)
Isn't owning a Model A basically an excuse to buy more tools?:D
And parts!

BigJohn 12-21-2014 12:05 PM
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I have a Reamer, used on two spindles.
I live in Northridge. Me and E-Mail with your phone #.
GrandPaJohn

Brobrian 12-21-2014 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by BigJohn (Post 1001853)
I have a Reamer, used on two spindles.
I live in Northridge. Me and E-Mail with your phone #.
GrandPaJohn
Thank you, GrandPaJohn, Charles is sending me one from, well, somewhere on the far side of the country. I'll keep you in mind if something happens.

I agree, Gentlemen, a Model A is a great excuse to acquire tools and parts! Every time a delivery truck rolls down our street I get excited and ask myself if I've ordered any parts.

Not sure why I choose to ask to borrow one this time, but I still think it's cool to be sharing this tool with someone clear across the continent, just because we both are A men.

Charles Reese 12-21-2014 01:21 PM
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posted just now. FedEx tracking #780163210320 .... now cross our fingers!! :)

Brobrian 12-21-2014 01:34 PM
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Charles,
Wow, that was quick! Thank you. Maybe I will be able to do the right side before I have to go back to work.

By the way, is the pickup in your avatar yours? I looked at your profile but didn't find any pics of your A.

I too looked at the video of the guy honing the spindle. That's how we did it in the Chopper Place yesterday. Our hone was not long enough to do both bushings at once, but with a little care it turned out perfectly.

I'm looking forward to using the reamer. Since I have two A's now, and will likely have my Dad's too at some point, it'll be nice to compare the techniques. Before I took it to the Harley shop, I tried two different machine shops. One guy wanted $50 for each spindle, the other one wouldn't touch it. Seems most shops these days are either completely dedicated to engine rebuilding, or are big production shops uninterested in little tasks like this.

Fullraceflathead 12-21-2014 01:51 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brobrian (Post 1001235)
Gentlemen,
Do any of you have the long reamer used to properly ream the bushings for the king pins? If so, would you be willing to lend it to me? I figure I could pay for shipping from here to Mars and back more cheaply than paying the $150+tax+shipping that Snyders is asking.
If not, it's okay. I can pay for the tool. I do have two A's and may use it again someday.

Just to give you fellows something to read:
I decided to try to tighten the steering on my '28 Coupe. Bought the parts to redo the kingpins after detecting an ever-so-slight bit of play. The kit came with new bushings which, without a reamer, I decided I would NOT replace. I mean, who knows how easily the old ones would come out or whether I could press the new ones in or what other can of worms I might open in the process. But this morning I was tinkering around and, well just couldn't help myself. I gave the bushings a little tap, then another and before I could stop myself they more or less just popped out Then the new ones went in well also. So here I am like a coyote with his foot in a trap. Gotta have a reamer.
Hello Brian,
We are both in the same Boat, looking for this reamer.
I too live in Riverside. I'm new to Model A's but have been around Muscle Cars and Drag Racing all my Life. I do have many tools along with a Lathe and a Mill. Let me know if you think you may need to make something. If you want to swap Model A stories sometime PM me.
Do you ever make the "Old Farts Car Club" first Friday of the Month Car Show at the Farmer Boys on Van Buren? I had my 1928 Model A Roadster Pick up there last November.

Charles Reese 12-21-2014 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Richard Lorenz (Post 1001584)
Some years ago the reamers sold for this job were too large. It was only about 0.002 inches too large, but that is too much. That is why so many are recommending honing.
still in original packaging, which appears to be at least as old as me :rolleyes:, states 13/15" ... 'for Model A ...." on box. Hopefully this will meet his needs.:)

redmodelt 12-21-2014 03:05 PM
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People have been reaming the spindle bushings for years and years now we must hone them or all is lost! The spindle only turns a few degrees each way, it's not a shaft turning in the bushing. I'll just keep reaming them with original period reamers.
(My OP)If you don't have a stepped reamer then doing one side at a time is the way to go. If it's stepped then both bushing can be replaced then reamed.

George Miller 12-21-2014 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Charles Reese (Post 1001984)
still in original packaging, which appears to be at least as old as me :rolleyes:, states 13/15" ... 'for Model A ...." on box. Hopefully this will meet his needs.:)
I think that should be 13/16 that would .812

Brobrian 12-21-2014 08:44 PM
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Got the steering column and the spindle reassembled today. Tight as a tick. Can't wait to finish up and see if the wobble is eliminated. I do love to drive this car.

Charles Reese 12-21-2014 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by forever4 (Post 1002130)
13/15 ths ?? :eek:

How many elevenths of an inch is that equal to? :D
OK, OK busted!!:) between bifocals and fat fingers, missed the '6' ... should read 13/16" ... now folks can sleep better :cool:


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