|
Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) |
|
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
11-30-2012, 12:52 PM | #1 |
Member
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Clemson, SC
Posts: 63
|
Tow bar for light towing
I'm still building up my collection of Model A support equipment and am pondering options for towing my A. I fully understand for the long road and higher speeds to get a full size trailer by rental or purchase. What I'm curious about is if a front mounted tow bar will work for short distance and lower speed towing. That seems awefully convenient for a spontaneous trip and I could get a pull home safely from most anyone if needed.
Any experience with that or advice? |
11-30-2012, 01:04 PM | #2 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Wa.
Posts: 5,407
|
Re: Tow bar for light towing
They were all there was for many years. They work fine.
With a second driver you can also use the towed car as a helper to get over the mountains or if the tow car breaks down. |
Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) |
|
11-30-2012, 01:23 PM | #3 |
Member
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Salisbury NC
Posts: 70
|
Re: Tow bar for light towing
Hey I have one I'd sell.... Came with a bunch of parts and cars I bought...
|
11-30-2012, 01:37 PM | #4 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Anchorage, Alaska
Posts: 9,115
|
Re: Tow bar for light towing
I remember "back in the day" that when my parents moved, we had to move the Model A with us. Tow bar was used, the kind that bolted to the front bumper brackets. When we got into the mountains, my dad had one of us kids (albeit underage) sit back in the Model A and use it's engine to help push things over the hills. If I remember correctly, he was towing it with a '50 Ford with a 6 cylinder engine.
|
11-30-2012, 02:28 PM | #5 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Illinois
Posts: 730
|
Re: Tow bar for light towing
I have an old tow bar that looks to be home made that was made to clamp onto the drag line in addition to the axle attachment allowing it to steer the Model A during towing. It works on the 28-29 with no problems but the 30-31's you have to remove the radiator apron to get the clearance. May not hurt to remove the front bumper as well.
I carry it under the rear seat in my Tudor on long tours. I personally have never needed it but it has been loaned out of several occasions. Reports back have been that it helped to keep the towed vehicle straight and works like a charm on sharp turns... |
11-30-2012, 02:34 PM | #6 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Marietta GA.
Posts: 647
|
Re: Tow bar for light towing
Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)
[31 coupe] That way any friend with a bumper hitch can tow it, I have not had to use it yet, before I bought it I did have to tow it home, maybe 4 miles, I used a rope on one of the bumper bracket's, tow speed was 15-20 mph on back roads, I rode the breaks, no problem, after that I bought the tow bar. My advice would be to buy a tow bar, but for use on short distance tow's and at low speeds.
__________________
I've suffered a great many Catastrophe's in my life.....most of them never Happened. |
11-30-2012, 03:52 PM | #7 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: South East NJ
Posts: 3,398
|
Re: Tow bar for light towing
The tow bars can work for long distances no problem, well except for that law stuff. I know my family flat towed several early Fords 8 to 10 hours at speed. The transmissions do not blow up.
In many areas they have laws against towing unless there are brakes functioning on the towed vehicle. Some states it is ok and others it is not. Just because your state allows it does not mean you can tow through a state that does not allow it. I know the cops look for it. Look up for towing rules on the net for more info. |
11-30-2012, 04:04 PM | #8 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Reading PA
Posts: 241
|
Re: Tow bar for light towing
My parents towed a 79 toyota truck from PA to CA and back behind a ryder truck when I was a kid. The tow bar is still sitting in my parents basement, where it's been for the last 25 years. I don't think they could afford to rent the trailer.
|
11-30-2012, 04:15 PM | #9 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Durango CO
Posts: 1,309
|
Re: Tow bar for light towing
OK, you don't have to tie down the steering wheel! The front end won't fall apart when you drill holes in the axle and forget about disconnecting the steering! This is the same tow bar I used to haul a Jeep from San Diego to Telluride and back for years. Don't forget, the dry lake racers used Ford wishbones to make tow bars to haul race cars over the Grapevine before WWII!
When I take a vehicle in for service, I haul the roadster so that I don't have to inconvenience my wife for a ride. |
11-30-2012, 04:48 PM | #10 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Long Beach, CA.
Posts: 219
|
Re: Tow bar for light towing
I have used a modified VW towbar many times, no problems.
|
11-30-2012, 04:49 PM | #11 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Coastal Mississippi & Central West Florida
Posts: 206
|
Re: Tow bar for light towing
I have used a VW tow bar for short slow speed trips. (mostly to get across town to another shop) I keep one around "just in case" of a local breakdown. Fits right on an A axle and the car follows without the steering wheel being tied, disconnecting the drag link, or anything. Just attach it and go. A cheap set of magnetic towing lights from Harbor Freight will work for you. I never backed up or went faster than about 35 or so.
Ed |
11-30-2012, 05:12 PM | #12 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Marietta GA.
Posts: 647
|
Re: Tow bar for light towing
Ed,
Was the VW tow bar you towed your A model with for the older VW or the 1970 and newer ? I know the bug changed their frt. end in 1971 I think, and used a diff. tow bar then the 1970 and older model's. Thanks.
__________________
I've suffered a great many Catastrophe's in my life.....most of them never Happened. |
11-30-2012, 06:28 PM | #13 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Coastal Mississippi & Central West Florida
Posts: 206
|
Re: Tow bar for light towing
This is the type I have. (not sure the picture posted) As far as I know the same tow bar will fit a regular beetle, Karman Ghia or Thing. The Super Beetle takes a different tow bar. The one that can be used for an A slips up on to the axle and is held in place by a heavy pin with a hairpin clip through it on each side. |
11-30-2012, 07:08 PM | #14 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Pace, FL near Pensacola
Posts: 374
|
Re: Tow bar for light towing
Back in the 60s the previous owner of my 31 SW sedan towed it from California to Florida. I've also towed it 300 miles a couple of times at 55 to 60 mph with no apparent problems. I disconnect the drag link since most As I've towed follow better with the steering disconnected.
|
11-30-2012, 08:13 PM | #15 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Camino, CA.
Posts: 3,086
|
Re: Tow bar for light towing
Towing an A by the bumper is not safe unless you have original bumper clamps.
|
11-30-2012, 10:41 PM | #16 |
Senior Member
|
Re: Tow bar for light towing
The one I used hung from the bumper but was chained to the axle.
__________________
What's right about America is that although we have a mess of problems, we have great capacity - intellect and resources - to do some thing about them. - Henry Ford II |
11-30-2012, 11:08 PM | #17 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Pace, FL near Pensacola
Posts: 374
|
Re: Tow bar for light towing
Mine attaches to the bumper and bumper arm together over the clamps. But it was built for a Model A by an elderly gentleman in our club back in the 70s.
|
11-30-2012, 11:34 PM | #18 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Ft. Worth
Posts: 1,006
|
Re: Tow bar for light towing
My grandparents used a homemade tow bar multiple times when the car would break down unexpectedly or when they would move and need to tow the Model A. However, they did try to always have one of them ride in the Model A if it was on a tow bar just incase it came off the bar (which one time it did).
__________________
Cowtown A's |
12-01-2012, 12:16 AM | #19 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: New hope Minnesota
Posts: 742
|
Re: Tow bar for light towing
A friend of mine's elderly uncle had a tow bar he made for an A and was given to me. I modified it so that it would clamp around the axle. Used it to tow an A chassis about 75 mile , worked great.
|
12-03-2012, 01:05 PM | #20 |
Member
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Clemson, SC
Posts: 63
|
Re: Tow bar for light towing
Great feedback, and as always... Thanks.
I picked up a tow bar from Harbor freight with the thought that I could interchange the front bumper clamps with the bar mounting bracket. This way one bolt hole would already be provided and I would only have to get creative on securing the second bolt to the support. Do you guys think the bumper supports are forgiving enough to allow towing like this or would they yield out of their original position? Photos attached for reference of the positioning... |
12-03-2012, 01:28 PM | #21 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Mpls, MN
Posts: 27,582
|
Re: Tow bar for light towing
Quote:
|
|
12-03-2012, 02:43 PM | #22 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 249
|
Re: Tow bar for light towing
I had one set up like that years ago, and it pulled the bumper apart...the bumper brackets just pulled apart....and it was a wild ride getting off the road....I would never ever tow using a bumper clamped tow bar....never ever !
I now have a VW style under the axle type tow bar...with some wings welded on to take any side to side play away....I think they used to sell for about $25 years ago and every volkswagen parts house sold them....probably see lots of them at swap meets for cheap.... I only use a tow bar in a pinch, but would far prefer to use a trailer....they rent cheap usually about $30 a day or better yet I bought my own so I diden't have to worry about towing....I also bought proper tie downs for the trailer...it makes the job much easier and after alll these years of using it has paid for itself many times over. joel Chester |
Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) |
|
12-03-2012, 03:00 PM | #23 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Conifer, Colorado
Posts: 2,423
|
Re: Tow bar for light towing - later flathead cars
Since I live in Colorado and we have been known to have a fire or two during summer, I put together this tow bar setup for my 53' Merc with the same tow bar from Harbor Freight, to allow the car to be towed short distances on a short notice. The mounts stay on the car peminately so all you have to do is fasten the tow bar with the two pins and hook it the trailer hitch (in my case on the back of the Grand Cherokee) and you are ready to go. Time about 15 minutes. Not noticeable when standing in front of the car
|
12-03-2012, 05:22 PM | #24 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: FRESNO, CA
Posts: 12,560
|
Re: Tow bar for light towing
Quote:
Saw a HUGE motor home pull over when it's towed Toyota Truck began shimmying badly. He tied the Toyota's steering wheel TIGHTLY to the windwing post!!! Sure would have liked to see his first 90 degree turn!!!!!!!!! Bill W.
__________________
"THE ASSISTANT GURU OF STUFF" |
|
12-03-2012, 09:27 PM | #25 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: FRESNO, CA
Posts: 12,560
|
Re: Tow bar for light towing
Quote:
Good lookin' simple, safe, tow bar. Love your "Black Phantom" Coupe! Hey! that's an Oklahoma license plate, my country! Pics of "MINERVA," had to sell her, (Sigh!) for care home $$$$ for Pat. Bill W.
__________________
"THE ASSISTANT GURU OF STUFF" |
|
12-04-2012, 01:09 PM | #26 |
Member
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Clemson, SC
Posts: 63
|
Re: Tow bar for light towing
Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)
Joel, I'll be sure those brackets are not mounted only to the bumper bars. Denis, I really like the idea of towing the model A in when I'm getting my truck serviced. That makes the routine service call sound more motivating. |
12-04-2012, 05:14 PM | #27 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Illinois
Posts: 730
|
Re: Tow bar for light towing
Quote:
It clamps onto the axle and then the back end clamps onto the steering drag line. Works like a hay rack wagon tongue for steering. It is small enough to fit under my Tudor back seat along with a good log chain and is my towing insurance policy to get pulled off the road to a service spot... Model A Tow Bar 1.jpg Model A Tow Bar 2.jpg Model A Tow Bar 3.jpg |
|
12-27-2013, 02:34 PM | #28 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 734
|
Re: Tow bar for light towing
I'm resurrecting this post because it talks about VW tow bars and Harbor Freight universal tow bars. I need the specifics. I have a Ford F150 pickup and a 1930 coupe. I want to carry a tow bar in the pickup should I get stuck. Not going any long distance, just home to the garage. Are there any posts, Model A News or Model A Restorer layouts which detail what to do for this purpose?
|
12-27-2013, 03:10 PM | #29 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Orlando, FL / St. Stephen, NB
Posts: 195
|
Re: Tow bar for light towing
I remember seeing a plan for one in a "Restorer" magazine. Hooked to the outside bumper bracket bolts.
|
12-27-2013, 08:13 PM | #30 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Odessa, NY
Posts: 385
|
Re: Tow bar for light towing
The best would be the ones that used to be manufactured for making hay wagons from a car chassis. A forged or cast part clamped to the front axle. A tongue extended from the hitch point , pivoted at the axle, and clamped with a pivot point on the tie rod. Just like a hay wagon today.
|
12-27-2013, 08:40 PM | #31 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Florham Park, NJ
Posts: 396
|
Re: Tow bar for light towing
Years ago, I flat towed a 1956 Corvette from NJ to NH and back behind a 1961 Chevy convertible a number of times to the track. Only problem I ever had was when one of the front tires in on the Corvette blew out. It was an interesting and wild ride getting it slowed down. I had a wire feeding the tail and stop lights and a reflective sign I put on the back saying "Car in Tow". After the tire incident, the next and all further trips were on a double axle trailer behind a full size van.
Tow brackets were welded on to the front of the chassis on the Corvette.
__________________
1965 Lotus Elan S2 1930 Model A Sport Coupe |
12-27-2013, 09:02 PM | #32 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: H.B. California
Posts: 451
|
Re: Tow bar for light towing
I tow my willys jeep with one of those like denis4x4 has in that picture and the cast c channels twisted to the point of danger.
I replaced them with 2"square tube but I still don't trust the ball connector,I've seen them damaged . Always use a chain and take it slow. |
12-27-2013, 11:14 PM | #33 | |
Senior Member
|
Re: Tow bar for light towing
Quote:
If I were you I would get the Harbor freight unit ($80.00) and fit it to the car with the bumper removed as to prevent the clamps from breaking. Mount the tow bar to the bumper mounts. I removed the pitman arm and hung it by a piece of wire to take strain off the steering box.
__________________
What's right about America is that although we have a mess of problems, we have great capacity - intellect and resources - to do some thing about them. - Henry Ford II |
|
12-28-2013, 11:07 AM | #34 | |
BANNED
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Clarksville, TN
Posts: 147
|
Re: Tow bar for light towing
Quote:
|
|
12-28-2013, 07:55 PM | #35 |
Member
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Clemson, SC
Posts: 63
|
Re: Tow bar for light towing
I bought the Harbor Freight unit and it has served well pulling the car back and forth on a couple short runs.
I remove the bumper clamps, turn the backing plates to the front, and mount the adaptors with the bumper in place. I also disconnect the pitman arm. Everything needs to be tightened down securely, otherwise you'll risk bending the bumper brackets that connect the bumper to the frame. |
|
|
Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) |
|