Bonnie and Clyde stuff

[Jim]

I noticed today that the guns and stuff of Bonnie and Clyde is going to be put up for auction. My question is, Has the 34 ford sedan that they were killed in already been sold? Thanks Jim

[TonyM]

It was at this place in Nevada:


http://www.roadsideamerica.com/story/2894

I guess it was moved in October.



TonyM.

[53F100Jeffie]

My wife and I saw the car at Whiskey Pete's in 1993, I think. We were on our honeymoon. Quite impressive exhibit, makes you feel bad for them with all the bullet holes. They did kill quite a few people. Live by the gun...
Jeff

[Mart]

I saw it at Primm a couple of years ago.

[CC33]

Here is a copy of the program from the auction here in Massachusetts. It was a thrill to see in person back then.

[koates]

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The 1934 ford sedan is not on auction here. Only two firearms used in Joplin on april 13th 1933 by bonniie & clyde will be auctioned on 21st jan in Kansas City. They are an 1897 winchester 12 gauge pump shotgun and a .45 cal. Thompson submachine gun.

[jan bogert]

did you go! if so what did they bring?

[bige386]

I dont know if it was the real Bonny & Clyde car or not, But back in 1969 when I was around 10 yrs old my Mom took me and my little brother to the Ann Arbor mall Arlons was the name of the store. When we got there in the parking lot was a semi tractor and trailer sitting there and on the side of the trailer it said BONNY & CLYDE'S DEATH CAR along with pictures and such. I wanted to go in there so bad but it cost 50 cents to enter and I guess Mom didn't have an extra dollar so me and my little brother could go in and see it. While in the store shopping around that's all I could think about was going to see B/C's car. Kinda like the kid that wanted the BB gun on Christmas story. You'll Shoot your eye out kid. As we where leaving the store I was pretty much pouting and hanging my head low, and low and behold there was a dollar bill laying there in the parking lot. I think ol George smiled and winked at me as I picked it up and showed my Mom what I had just found and begged her to let us go through that semi trailer and see B/C's car and belongings and she said ok. Holly Crap we're going. We stood in line and made our way up the steps and finally made it into the trailer. There in front of us stood Bonny and Clyde manikins of course with there guns and all. And to the left was the bullet rittled Car. Some where along the way my little brother got scared and ran out the entrance door back to where Mom was standing outside waiting for us. But I can remember it like it was only yesterday, there was all kinds of Bonny and Clyde stuff in there to look at but you had to keep moving a long because of all the people behind you. Was it really Bonny and Clyde's car ? I don't know but it sure did leave a lasting memory that I will never forget.

[Richard Wilson]

I remember as a 9-10 year old kid in the very early 60's that the B&C death car was displayed at a local shopping center. It was in a big trailer and you had to climb some stairs up to the doorway. I agree with bige386 that it was a must see and was pretty scarry for a kid with a big imagination.

[lee34]

The dirt from the supposed ambush area for sale on auction site.(shipped from China?) Lee34

[CC33]

Originally Posted by jan bogert

did you go! if so what did they bring?

The original car sold here in Massachusetts for $175,000 in 1973, by Kruse Auctions. Winning bidder was Pete Simon Vegas casino owner.

[TonyM]

Bonnie and Clyde Car Information:

1934 Ford Deluxe Fordor
driven by Clyde Barrow and Bonnie Parker on May 23, 1934



1934 Ford Deluxe Fordor

Manufactured: February, 1934 at River Rouge, Michigan

Sold by: Mosley-Mack Motor Company, Topeka, Kansas, April 1934

Sold to: Ruth Warren, 2107 Gabler St. Topeka, Kansas

Engine/Frame Number: 649198

Color: Cordoba Gray

Options and Accessories:
Arvin Hot Water Heater
Metal Spare Tire Cover
Front and Rear Bumper Guards
Chrome Greyhound Radiator Cap
Accessory Trunk Potter Manufacturing

Stolen on April 29, 1934 from Ruth Warren's driveway.

1934 Kansas License Plate: 3-17832

1934 Arkansas License Plate: 15-368



I hope to see this car someday. Might not if it is sold to a private collector and he hides it.

TM

[Bob NH]

Pretty interesting stuff. I remember that car and also Hitlers staff car traveling around the country some years back. They were both on a large black top parking lot in Lakes Region in N.H. at what was once a Kmart store . Glad I had the experience.

[Jim in Wisconsin]

Quite a few years ago (in the 1970's I think) there was "the" Bonney and Clyde car on display in a trailer in downtown Sheboygan, Wisconsin. I already had a 33 four door sedan so I knew quite a bit about them, how the interior should look etc. The car on display had crappy non-original seat upholstery and the dash had been painted some goofy color. It looked more like the way a car would look after 20 -30 years of use and had been fixed up by someone just keeping it going as an old car. The car B&C got killed in was almost new then, so that didn't seem to make sense to me. Somehow I had the feeling it was just an old Ford that someone took out behind the barn and shot at.

[V12Bill]

Interesting to note that the heater was an Arvin. Probably installed by the dealer. Would that heater cost points at a concourse show?

[TonyM]

Originally Posted by Jim in Wisconsin

Quite a few years ago (in the 1970's I think) there was "the" Bonney and Clyde car on display in a trailer in downtown Sheboygan, Wisconsin. I already had a 33 four door sedan so I knew quite a bit about them, how the interior should look etc. The car on display had crappy non-original seat upholstery and the dash had been painted some goofy color. It looked more like the way a car would look after 20 -30 years of use and had been fixed up by someone just keeping it going as an old car. The car B&C got killed in was almost new then, so that didn't seem to make sense to me. Somehow I had the feeling it was just an old Ford that someone took out behind the barn and shot at.

If I remember correctly, I think someone did make a copy of the death car, bullet holes and all. After WWII, someone got the Bonnie and Clyde car running and actually drove it in some events. It has been documened. A brief internet search will bring this stuff up.

Good Luck.

T

[TonyM]

Originally Posted by V12Bill

Interesting to note that the heater was an Arvin. Probably installed by the dealer. Would that heater cost points at a concourse show?

Yep, installed by the dealer. The original owner had the car for less than a month before it was stolen.

TM

[Jim in Wisconsin]

If anyone hasn't seen that letter that Clyde wrote to Henry Ford, you should read it. Ol Clyde told Henry the "Ford V8 has every other car on the road skinned" He signed his name Clyde Champion Barrow.
Ruth Warren must of left the key in, it's hard to steal one of those cars. That steering lock is pretty good.

[Lawson Cox]

Did that car go on the Glidden Tour, or at least a cross country tour with a bunch of other cars maybe 30+ years ago? Or was that a replica. Tour passed through Atlanta and spent the night here. I saw all of the cars at a motel on north side of town.

[Mark Slight]

As of today 1/22/12 it is listed on line as being at Whiskey Pete's 31900 S. Las Vegas Blvd, Primm, NV. 89019-9119 1-800-851-1707.
As was mentioned it may be getting around the Las Vegas NV. area being displayed.

I saw it some time ago in Northern California at one of the large shows like the Oakland roadster show. Interesting to see, sad to see a 1934 Ford shot to heck!
Mark.

[David J]

I took these pics 12-18-10 in Verdi NV . This is the actual "Warren car" described above by TonyM . I posted these about a year ago also . Yes it was a new car when Clyde borrowed it but as you can see it has suffered much from handling-theft over the years . Pretty beat up nowdays . This car was at the MN state fair when I was a kid & I thought the backwards doors were off the scale on the neat-o-meter & that hasn't changed to this day .

[bobH]

Lawson, & others... if memory serves (?), I believe the B/C car was taken on the Great Race, in preparation to sell it - this would have been 30-40 years ago. If this is true, there should be some record of it in GR records ?? I think there may have been some mention of this in a long-ago V8 Times...
BTW, the wife & I drive by Primm on a regular basis. If anyone really cares, we could stop in & see if it's still there. Too bad I didn't read this thread a few days ago. We drove by there on Wednesday. Last time I actually looked was at least a couple years ago.

[David J]

It did indeed run in the Great American Race - complete with a new engine & different wheels-tires . Around 1987 it finished if memory serves me correctly . It was sold shortly after .

[typo41]

Back in the 80's my wife and I lived in Northern Nevada, and every so often we would venture up to Virginia City for a look around and some fun. One year a small Casino on the main drag had a sign out front, See the Bonnie and Clyde death car. We thought 'sure' in Virginia City. It a no charge admission on the second story. If you have ever been to VC, you would question how a car was placed on a second story of a very narrow building that was built 100 years ago? So we figured it was a copy to get tourist inside. So we ventured up for a look see and at first we just played it off as a fake, until we looked at the original news clippings and crime photos and the bullet holes matched including directionality, meaning, the dirctions of the bullet exits as shots came from all around. We were shocked and really looked close as it was set up in a very small room and the rope barriers were touching the car and we could touch it as well. Did I have my camera? Nope, teach me.
Later I saw it in a big glass case at the Impeial Palace collection.
And now I read it is a Whiskey Pete's

[Henryat1140]

>Would an 'Arvin' heater earn a points deduction?

I have a 36 Phaeton with a number of dealer installed accessories, including a radio and an Arvin heater. I believe in my heart the heater, and radio were installed when the car was delivered.

While having the car judged at Hershey this year (AACA) I was questioned about whether the heater was an approved Ford accessory. The judge knew Ford didn't offer a hot water heater in 36, and I did not dispute his call, nevertheless it cost a significant loss of points - justified or not.

So . .. . .. the answer is: it would most probably cause a deduction for several items, i.e. unapproved accessory, 2 extra holes in the firewall, extra switch in the dash, and probably for the heater hoses and connections.

In my case, since it does work, and was original to the car, I'm going to leave it.

Henry

[Retroline]

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We saw the car and exhibit at Buffalo Bills across from Whiskey Petes in November last year. They tend to share the car going from one side of the highway to the other. It was on display with the Dutch Shultz / Al Capone '31 Lincoln sedan.