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Old 03-10-2015, 11:25 PM   #1
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There may be hope yet. There was an editorial in today's NYT by Robert Bryce calling for the end to ethanol, and there are at least two bills being proposed.
You can do a search on the NYT site, or if you have an account, you can read it here:
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/10/op...l-rip-off.html

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Old 03-11-2015, 07:40 AM   #2
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Corn is for people, cows, chickens, and pigs --not for our gas tanks!! As the world's #1 oil producer, there is no need. I love farmers but ethanol is #1 reason for food prices to be so high!
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Old 03-11-2015, 08:06 AM   #3
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Ethanol is primarily produced in the US through corn stock. As everyone knows, corn is a "heavy feeder" and given no other fertilization, will soon deplete the land. Of course farmers growing corn for ethanol fertilize - and almost all of this fertilizer comes from - you guessed it - petro-stocks.

So the net effect of ethanol infused gasoline is actually to INCREASE our petroleum use due to the energy inefficiencies of growing corn.

The only advantage to corn in gasoline is use as an "oxygenator" which aids combustion - but this can be accomplished with as little as 3 percent admixture - not the 20 percent that your EPA advocates. And is a cleaner and less environmentally damaging additive than tetra-ethyl lead or MBTE

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Old 03-11-2015, 08:18 AM   #4
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I'm afraid the most egregious advantage to corn in gasoline is to the farmers and the ethanol lobby. It's the old "I got mine, screw you." way of thinking.
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Old 03-11-2015, 08:49 AM   #5
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I saw an article in Hemmings about this. I hope it succeeds.

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Old 03-11-2015, 09:21 AM   #6
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http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2...ne/?refer=news
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Old 03-11-2015, 09:25 AM   #7
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In a few places (Kentucky) we have "Recreational" alcohol free fuel. I fill up there. More expensive but real dino fuel!
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Old 03-11-2015, 09:30 AM   #8
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For alcohol free gasoline in Alaska, just go to your nearest corner gas station.
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Old 03-11-2015, 09:42 AM   #9
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Where I live they are starting to use and sell ethanol free fuel. but it is $.40more per gallon than hi test. Do you think this is just another way for us to pay more for fuel?
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Old 03-11-2015, 03:49 PM   #10
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No ethanol free gas in Jersey,Sears sells it for small gas engines in about a quart and one half container,not cheap.
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Old 03-11-2015, 04:03 PM   #11
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Ethanol in our gasoline is a Government perk to USA farmers. Farmers raise more corn than is necessary, so forget about it going coming out of our gasoline anytime soon.
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Old 03-11-2015, 07:41 PM   #12
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I ONLY put ethanol-free fuel in my A. It costs $.50 more per gallon than 87 octane 10% ethanol, and is the same price as #2 diesel. I really hope the ethanol tax is repealed. That crap wrecked multiple carburetors in multiple vehicles. It even melted the carburetor on my Briggs & Stratton lawnmower because the carb is plastic. If ethanol disappeared, I would have many more options for filling up. Right now, there is one gas station 5 mi from my house that sells ethanol-free.
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For alcohol free gasoline in Alaska, just go to your nearest corner gas station.
Same here. At any 'ol servo we have the choice of octane ranging from 91 to 98. 98 is a little more expensive but who worries about that while the seat is pushing you in the back?
Of course, 10% ethanol is also available at 4 cents a litre less than 91 octane but after doing the sums, I choose not to use it because it contains less energy per dollar than "proper fuel".
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I, like most here are up in age.having followed politics closely for 50 years, in my opinion we will be using corn gas the rest of our lives.tried to repeal rain tax in md, its a no go. tom
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Old 03-13-2015, 06:21 AM   #15
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Article in AutoWeek that was written by Jay Leno on ethanol gasoline....

http://autoweek.com/article/car-life...-hates-ethanol

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Old 03-13-2015, 08:30 AM   #16
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A HUGE ethanol plant, here in our San Joaquin Valley, went belly up! Apparently our farmers didn't want to stray away from mainly FOOD crops.
Google San Joaquin Valley Ca. crop varieties, we grow the widest variety of crops of ANYWHERE in the WORLD, along with our coastal valleys, which grow mostly veggies & cool weather crops. HUGE plants here, process more tomato products than you could IMAGINE!!!
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Old 03-13-2015, 09:14 PM   #17
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Let's not forget the NUTS (of all varieties) and Olives ! And California RICE is world famous and is the largest grower in the U.S.

I LOVE my 'corn on the cob', and with ethanol stealing away the corn for fuel, the cost of corn (for eating) has sky rocketed !
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Old 03-13-2015, 10:50 PM   #18
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actually there is one ethanol free gas station in NJ , here is a list for the US and Canada. I am lucky to have a few in my rural county
http://www.pure-gas.org/
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Old 03-14-2015, 06:42 AM   #19
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that gas station in New Jersey listed on that pure gas has 110 octaine at over 9.00 per gallon !!
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Old 03-14-2015, 07:19 AM   #20
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Watch the cost go higher....remember, lead was an additive and when they removed it it cost us more . Ethanol is an additive that has cost us more and when they remove it will cost us even more!
Hat to be a killjoy ....but I am a realist.m
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