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Old 05-18-2024, 03:32 PM   #1
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Default UPDATE***39 Ford deluxe can't remove cam

Heads off, intake off, all valves are pinned up with wedges, all the lifters are pinned up as well, CAM will not come out, it's hitting some stop somewhere.....anyone know blocking it?

Do I rotate cam or crank and continue to pull on camshaft?

They are "separated' because I have missing teeth on the camshaft, engine still in car, trying to repair while in car.

Any help appreciated.

Tom

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Old 05-18-2024, 03:45 PM   #2
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make sure fuel pump push rod is out
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Old 05-18-2024, 04:10 PM   #3
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see which lifter does not move when you pull the cam fwd.
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Old 05-18-2024, 05:25 PM   #4
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Everything is pinned up. Are you saying it's still getting caught on one of the lifters?
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Old 05-18-2024, 05:29 PM   #5
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make sure fuel pump push rod is out

This? And if one lifter isn't quite high enough the cam will catch it.
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Old 05-19-2024, 05:16 AM   #6
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Guys, is there a cam retainer? My press on fiber gear is still on the camshaft, could there be a retainer behind the gear? I saw a video of a guy removing a cam retainer but he had a metal gear.

I still can't get my cam out, it's going up against a hard stop somewhere.....all the valves and lifters are pinned up.

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Old 05-19-2024, 06:03 AM   #7
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Probably just a lobe getting hung up on a bearing hole as you're trying to slide it out.
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Old 05-19-2024, 06:29 AM   #8
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Can you rotate it or will it not spin either?
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Old 05-19-2024, 06:45 AM   #9
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The pressed on gear does not have a retainer to remove. Suggest drill small holes on the gear where it attaches to the cam to release the broken cam gear.
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Old 05-19-2024, 07:48 AM   #10
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Default Re: 39 Ford deluxe can't remove cam

I’m reading that you have all the parts you mentioned lifted out of the way, Richard Crow asked if you had the fuel pump push rod pulled back, you didn’t list that, you didn’t respond to Mr. Crow. Could that push rod be the issue?
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Old 05-19-2024, 08:25 AM   #11
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Default Re: 39 Ford deluxe can't remove cam

I had the same issue on my 1937 21 stud engine. The difference was that the engine was out of the car, all the lifters were out of the engine and the fuel pump pushrod. The cam would move 1/4”-1/2” and then felt like it was hitting something. I then removed the rear idler gear cover, behind the flywheel, but that didn’t help. I then used some gentle taps on the rear end of the camshaft and was able to remove the cam. My thought was there were some deposits on the cam journals that prevented its removal. I wish you luck with your project.

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Old 05-19-2024, 11:55 AM   #12
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Cam finally came out, pulled, hammered, pulled hammered.

Does anyone have a camshaft for sale with a metal gear?

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Old 05-19-2024, 01:27 PM   #13
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If your engine uses cam bearings be sure and check their condition after all that pulling and hammering.
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Old 05-19-2024, 05:40 PM   #14
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Just assume you'll need new cam bearings . . . they are not expensive.
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Old 05-19-2024, 07:24 PM   #15
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Just assume you'll need new cam bearings . . . they are not expensive.

Just make sure they're NOT the 0.011" oversize (IF I remember correctly) that folks occasionally run into, possibly used at factory to correct blocks with that deficiency, thus rejection of block, otherwise.


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Old 05-20-2024, 04:51 AM   #16
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You can also have undersize bearings. I have a cam that is 10 thou under.
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Old 05-20-2024, 05:13 AM   #17
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I'm not replacing the cam bearings if this even has cam bearings, the journals and lobes on mine are clean with no pitting. I would reuse this cam if not for the press on gear type.

Can anyone recommend a new Cam and gear including parts numbers?

What lift and duration am I looking for ideally? I generally stay stock unless there's a cam that will provide some improvements that I can just drop in.
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Old 05-20-2024, 07:21 AM   #18
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press on one of the metal gears-yes you can get them early ford v8 in sc has them
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Old 05-20-2024, 07:24 AM   #19
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The cam you have is all nice and cozy with the lifters you have - if it is in good shape, put a new gear on it and put er' back in!
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Old 05-21-2024, 05:02 AM   #20
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New fiber gear??? I can't find a press on metal gear!
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