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Old 04-18-2012, 08:57 PM   #1
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Default ID'ing wheels...longshot?

The wheels came and went on a car I got rid of years ago,but have a chance to get them back. I know they are not "newer",and are narrow. From the pic,any guestimates? I'm just contemplating spokes on my roadster,or steelies.... Either way,i'm getting them. Thanks.
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Old 04-18-2012, 09:16 PM   #2
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They look a lot like the wheels my stock 46 had---they were 16", I think they were made in 15" also ---Mercury??
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Old 04-18-2012, 09:24 PM   #3
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I believe Fords from 40-48 used the same style rim. I've got a few of these myself I use as garage rollers.
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Old 04-18-2012, 09:47 PM   #4
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x2 on the 16" for '40 to '48. Prior years were wide fives. I think your right about the 15" Mercs, but if I remember right it was '48 only.
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Old 04-18-2012, 10:34 PM   #5
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I'm picking these up tommorow. Been in touch with the current owner,and they were swapped for something else. He still had them sitting. The concensus between the both of us remembering that they were in fact 16''s. Any width(s) these could be,or standard sizes? Thanks.-Kid
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Old 04-19-2012, 07:22 AM   #6
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Most old ford wheels were the same except for the "knobs" for attaching hub caps (I may be mistaken here). Somebody like Bruce Lancaster shoud pop up here.
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The basic design look like Kelsey Hayes wheels that were used on many Willys vehicles.
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I think that the wheels are 1940-48 Ford 16 inch. The 1949-51 Mercury 15 inch wheels had the nobs for the hubcaps to snap on the outside
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Old 04-19-2012, 11:19 AM   #9
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late 40's ford passenger cars will also swap with dodge and Plymouth cars of the late 40's early 50's
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Old 04-19-2012, 01:35 PM   #10
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1940 thru 48 wheels will fit the model A lug pattern. 1949 and later Ford wheels will fit the old Mopars but not the model A. Full size ford pickups have the same lug pattern as the model A. 1949 through at least 51 Mercury 15 inch wheels also have the same lug pattern as the model A.
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Old 04-19-2012, 03:02 PM   #11
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Those look exactly like the set I have in the shop. They were on a post-war Merc. They were also identical to the wheels that were on a 41 Continental, as they were once used as rollers for that project. There may be a wider version for Merc and Lincolns, but nothing I can raise my right hand to.
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Old 04-19-2012, 07:03 PM   #12
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Well... The wheels are now in my posession.Freebie no less.. They are infact 16's as speculated.All the BS (back space)is the same,so that's a good thing.
Another Q though,which doesn't matter for my deal but curious anyways...... three of the wheels have this "hole"-about a 1/4 inch drilled into them,and one does not. I'm just guessing a difference in year kinda thing.Here's a couple of pics....
thanks for the responses.-Kid
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Old 04-20-2012, 11:37 PM   #13
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Didn't chrysler products use a locating pin on the drum and the wheel bolted to the drum, fords and chevy's had studs on the drums and used nuts to tighten?

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Much bigger pin on the Chrysler Corp cars and as I recall in line with the studs or bolts, depending.
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Didn't chrysler products use a locating pin on the drum and the wheel bolted to the drum, fords and chevy's had studs on the drums and used nuts to tighten?

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The mopars did use a locating pin. It was fairly easy to remove the pin with a cold chisel and a hammer. I have removed a few locating pins when I needed to use 1949 and up Ford car wheels on a Plymouth or Dodge car.
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Old 04-22-2012, 06:57 PM   #16
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Update.... The wheel without the locating pin hole turned out to be a 4 1/2.. I went to a swap today at All Ford in Campbell CA that usually has a good representation of early iron/parts. From my understanding from vendors who had wheels,the 5' wide is pretty rare. Not saying they are not out there,just none were present at the swap. I ended up buying two 4' wheels for $40.
So,with the info I got today,at least I learned the locating hole(dowell) does infact come on a 5' wheel,to where as a 4 1/2,and a 4',does not.Guys-these are FORD wheels.
Just a reference for those who are looking!
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