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Old 01-17-2017, 04:53 PM   #1
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In the three videos below, the guy is able to prime his flathead before startup by manually operating his mechanical fuel pump with a lever attached to the pump. I'm not familiar with a fuel pump such as this. I think it's a pretty good/handy design. Are these fuel pumps unique to British Ford's? Are they still made? Do any of you have such a pump on your flatheads? I would prefer one of these as opposed to an electric pump....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BorFj02H-0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEshHF63hck

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whCX0LLJduU
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Old 01-17-2017, 04:57 PM   #2
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Default Re: Unique fuel pump?....

Notice the accent of the owners,these are english type pumps,they sometimes turn up here in Australia,I have one on my 34 a great help when you don't drive them often enough,
With a bit of creative assembly you can fit that type of bottom with the ford type top.
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That is great! I've never seen one. great idea for sure. He says it's probably military spec. I like it!

By the way, MART on the HAMB, who made these videos is a wealth of knowledge, with rear end rebuild tech articles, great build articles on his 33, etc. Great guy that MART!
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Old 01-17-2017, 05:14 PM   #4
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Apparently you can make one up for the Model B engine as well!

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Old 01-17-2017, 06:38 PM   #5
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I remember them from the late 1950's. Also the double diaphragm pumps for steady wipers. These most often from remanufacture companies. You had to have a core to get one.
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French pump. Vern Garden sells them.

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Old 01-19-2017, 06:50 AM   #7
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Vern Tardel, that is. Damn auto correct!

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Default Re: Unique fuel pump?....

The Military used them during WW II a lot on the 4 cyl Jeeps ( Willys and Ford ) GMC 6x6 270 in line 6, and a lot more. They had the lever on the side to prime with.
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Old 01-20-2017, 04:22 AM   #9
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Vern Tardel doesn't show e'm? I wonder where you can get one?
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Old 01-20-2017, 04:33 AM   #10
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I love these, big volume, Hand primer lever. elegant design.

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I'm wondering how difficult it might be to modify a stock fuel pump to add this same feature, and will these special fp's overcome the dreaded vapor lock?
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Old 01-20-2017, 08:25 AM   #12
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Over come vapour lock? Nah, makes no difference if the pump is operated by the cam or the lever, it still ain't gonna pump gas vapour.
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Old 01-20-2017, 08:28 AM   #13
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Nah, gas turns to vapour in a vapour lock situation, so no matter how the pump diaphragm is operated, by the cam or the hand primer, it still won't pump vapour.
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Old 01-20-2017, 09:41 AM   #14
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Default Re: Unique fuel pump?....

Yes, I have seen fuel pumps like that but not on a Ford flathead. My Massey Super 90 tractor with Perkins diesel has a similar lift pump to supply the injector pump. Use it to fill the fuel filters and pump when bleeding the system after a filter change or work on the injectors. I've also seen one on an old Wisconsin V4 air cooled engine.
The video was interesting. Funny how well that engine ran on a cold start without any sign of using the choke? Any of mine take careful work and setting of the manual choke to run right when cold.
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Old 01-20-2017, 09:41 AM   #15
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So-Cal Speed Shop has the French Flathead pumps.
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Old 01-20-2017, 10:04 AM   #16
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And how does he keep that flathead from overheating without a fan on the engine?
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Old 01-20-2017, 11:07 AM   #17
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i ran a 41 pick up with no fan for a bit (short time) and was OK as long as i was moving at at least 20 MPH.. did it mostly for long cross country trips.....
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