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Old 11-29-2014, 01:56 AM   #21
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Notice how they sprayed the entire car white including the roof insert. Looks like they forgot to mask one end of the headlight bar. I was also wondering about the front bumper on a car that new.
That paint job must have been an Earl Schieb special. Or maybe Macco.
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Old 11-29-2014, 03:48 AM   #22
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Old 11-29-2014, 08:17 AM   #23
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I don't see sirens on the car even though one motorcycle seems to have one. I am sure there was a whole small industry back then that supplied police-type accoutrements.
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Old 11-29-2014, 09:37 AM   #24
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Purdy, I like those. But a bow tie? Nope.
Ray, I've got to agree that a bow tie does look silly .
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Old 11-29-2014, 10:15 AM   #25
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Being all white & not showing siren, plus nothing on doors saying Police or City, I wonder if this could be a Medics car ?/
I don't know about that era but when I was a kid, there were no EMS units operated by municipal authorities-----ambulances were maintained by funeral homes (kind of ironic, isn't it).

Maybe my mentor HL can shed some light on when fire departments went into the emergency medical service.
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Old 11-29-2014, 10:52 AM   #26
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I don't know about that era but when I was a kid, there were no EMS units operated by municipal authorities-----ambulances were maintained by funeral homes (kind of ironic, isn't it).

Maybe my mentor HL can shed some light on when fire departments went into the emergency medical service.
Back about 1980 I saw a combination ambulance/hearse for sale for $700. It was about 15 years old. That town also had a combination furniture store/funeral home.
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Old 11-29-2014, 11:25 AM   #27
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I don't know about that era but when I was a kid, there were no EMS units operated by municipal authorities-----ambulances were maintained by funeral homes (kind of ironic, isn't it).

Maybe my mentor HL can shed some light on when fire departments went into the emergency medical service.
In Chicago the fire department began providing ambulance service in the late '20's but it was very rudimentary, basically just a transport service with some first aid provided. I can clearly remember 1957 Cadillac, long wheelbase conversions being used probably into the early '60's. When they decided to upgrade to EMS service I do not recall, but I would think that was the '70's.
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Back about 1980 I saw a combination ambulance/hearse for sale for $700. It was about 15 years old. That town also had a combination furniture store/funeral home.
That was real common.

In the second picture the bumper looks straighter? Maybe a slope in the driveway at that point? I guess you'd have to measure the distance from the tire to the fender? To see if they are the same?
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Old 11-29-2014, 01:54 PM   #29
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I don't know about that era but when I was a kid, there were no EMS units operated by municipal authorities-----ambulances were maintained by funeral homes (kind of ironic, isn't it).

Maybe my mentor HL can shed some light on when fire departments went into the emergency medical service.
The modern protocols for EMS in the US were established in 1970 and were based on studies done in the 1960s. It took a while after that for all states and subordinate agencies to conform. It really depends on the location. Some large cities had municipally-operated EMS long before 1970, but the standards for service were largely uncontrolled.

Even to this day, not all fire departments provide both EMS first-response and EMS transport (ambulance). Many fire departments just provide EMS first-response. EMS transport or ambulance service is handled by a contract provider, which is often a private company; e.g., American Medical Response (AMR).

Funeral services connected to furniture shops or manufacturers date back to the 1800s or earlier. They had the means to build wooden coffins as well as furniture. IOW, they could provide cradle to grave service.

Ambulance services were sometimes connected to funeral homes. There wasn't a great deal of difference between a hearse and an ambulance in terms of carrying bodies. One carried them on a stretcher and the other carried them in a box.

Many hospitals also operated ambulances and some still do, as do some rest homes for BLS (EMS-B, basic life support) or non-emergency transport.

Regarding the Model A in the photos, I'd guess it's just a regular police car with a fresh coat of paint and not yet adorned with decals or other identification. The driver isn't in plain clothes, just dressed differently than the motorcycle officers. He's wearing a policeman's cap and badge.

The paint job is definitely Earl Scheib ("paint any car any color for $19.95") or Maaco or Miracle style, but none of those companies were around in the early 1930s, so now we have proof that they didn't invent the lousy paint job.
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Old 11-29-2014, 02:03 PM   #30
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A all WHITE Model "A" .... Only in C.A......l.o.l.
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Old 11-30-2014, 12:16 PM   #31
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A coupe would seem an unlikely choice for a squad car. What would keep the suspects from jumping out of the rumble seat on the way to the station?

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A bow tie would seem appropriate if the uniform required neck wear. Imagine a four in hand in the wind.
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That town also had a combination furniture store/funeral home.
How handy. The dearly departed could be laid out in the showroom window for maximum viewing by all passersby!
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I suppose if the funeral home ambulance took its time they would have another customer. I remember an incident in the early 60s when a certain funeral home ambulance had to stop at a gas station and gas up while a gun shot victim was being transported. Needless to say, the gunshot victim didn't make it to the hospital before passing away , even though the local hospital was only a couple of miles up the road.
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A coupe would seem an unlikely choice for a squad car. What would keep the suspects from jumping out of the rumble seat on the way to the station?

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A bow tie would seem appropriate if the uniform required neck wear. Imagine a four in hand in the wind.
In those days suspects were transported in Paddy Wagons. Not in cars.
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A coupe would seem an unlikely choice for a squad car. What would keep the suspects from jumping out of the rumble seat on the way to the station?

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A bow tie would seem appropriate if the uniform required neck wear. Imagine a four in hand in the wind.
About twenty of us from our club restored the Minnesota Highway patrol car, which is a 1930 Model A Coupe.

That was a dozen years ago and I think my "GET OUT OF JAIL FREE" card has expired.
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Notice how they sprayed the entire car white including the roof insert. Looks like they forgot to mask one end of the headlight bar. I was also wondering about the front bumper on a car that new.
Was MAACO in existence back then?

Maybe it was a way of waterproofing the top, filli n the holes with paint!!!!

Maybe the driver ran a milk company???
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About 9 months ago I looked at a 29 Coupe here in Southern California. Body was painted White with black fenders. It had Arizona plates and the guy said he bought it from a sheriff in Arizona who was going to put sheriff's badges on the doors. He took it to Texas and stored for several years and brought it to California to sell.

I didn't buy it because it didn't have many original parts and also, I didn't want to hassle with DMV.
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I suppose if the funeral home ambulance took its time they would have another customer. I remember an incident in the early 60s when a certain funeral home ambulance had to stop at a gas station and gas up while a gun shot victim was being transported. Needless to say, the gunshot victim didn't make it to the hospital before passing away , even though the local hospital was only a couple of miles up the road.
I think I can shed some light on the funeral home ambulance service. Many decades ago, like in the '20s and '30s, and maybe even later, a common attitude was that many people went to hospitals just to die. Of course the medical technology was more primitive back then, doctors made house calls (for what it was worth), children were often delivered at home, etc.
I don't think many of us want to return to Model "A" standards of medical practice.
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