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Brendan · 08-04-2013, 12:44 AM

what a job to work on a Banjo rear. in my model A I pulled the threads off one axle and I had to replace the axles. I bought another rear that had 378s in it so I changed the ring and pinion that was a job changing pinions. after I got every thing apart I saw why you need to change everything. I have about 20 hrs in this thing, and I hope it works. I do not wont to do the job over again it is not fun. I would rather pull the motor out of my pickup then do this job. i will report back after it car is on the road

Dale Fairfax · 08-04-2013, 11:20 AM

Nor was he concerned with how long it would last.

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Originally Posted by c334charlie

Ring and pion gears are machined as a set. walts application was not concerned about noise.

B-O-B · 08-04-2013, 12:09 PM

Even if you had the same gear ratios but different ring & pinion(not matched sets) I believe they would be rather noisy . Tried that once on a 53 dodge truck,it didn't work too good.

JM 35 Sedan · 08-04-2013, 02:20 PM

Brendan, take your time. Make sure all bearings and races are in good condition. You will more than likely need to replace all three lip seals. Get carrier bearing preloaded set without pinion gear in center banjo housing. Set the pinion bearings to the correct drag. Get the R&P gear backlash set correctly. It just takes time and patience to get the job done correctly.

Brendan · 08-04-2013, 03:40 PM

BOY did I find out ! TAKE YOUR TIME! I had the rear end all in place and bolted in the A. there was back and fourth movement in the left axle. I could see that the carrier was not moving, the axle was moving about a 1/8 inch and the outer side was moving about 20 thounends. I did not check that before I put the rear back together. so out comes the rear and back apart. I took the carrier apart and took the axels and put them in the carrier that they where in since new, and no movement so I took 1 step forward and 3 steps back. I wasted 11 hrs yesterday but sure learned a lot

08-04-2013, 12:44 AM	#21
Brendan Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: At my kitchen table in Santa Rosa, Ca Posts: 2,903	Re: Banjo rear end! ring and pinion what a job to work on a Banjo rear. in my model A I pulled the threads off one axle and I had to replace the axles. I bought another rear that had 378s in it so I changed the ring and pinion that was a job changing pinions. after I got every thing apart I saw why you need to change everything. I have about 20 hrs in this thing, and I hope it works. I do not wont to do the job over again it is not fun. I would rather pull the motor out of my pickup then do this job. i will report back after it car is on the road __________________ If it would have been a snake it would have bit ya! i can't spell my way out of a paper bag!

08-04-2013, 12:09 PM	#23
B-O-B Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Ft Mohave,Az Posts: 1,987	Re: Banjo rear end! ring and pinion Even if you had the same gear ratios but different ring & pinion(not matched sets) I believe they would be rather noisy . Tried that once on a 53 dodge truck,it didn't work too good.

08-04-2013, 02:20 PM	#24
JM 35 Sedan Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Near Rising Sun, Maryland Posts: 10,858	Re: Banjo rear end! ring and pinion Brendan, take your time. Make sure all bearings and races are in good condition. You will more than likely need to replace all three lip seals. Get carrier bearing preloaded set without pinion gear in center banjo housing. Set the pinion bearings to the correct drag. Get the R&P gear backlash set correctly. It just takes time and patience to get the job done correctly. __________________ *John* *"Never give up on what you really want to do. The person with big dreams is more powerful than one with all the facts". Albert Einstein*

08-04-2013, 03:40 PM	#25
Brendan Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: At my kitchen table in Santa Rosa, Ca Posts: 2,903	Re: Banjo rear end! ring and pinion BOY did I find out ! TAKE YOUR TIME! I had the rear end all in place and bolted in the A. there was back and fourth movement in the left axle. I could see that the carrier was not moving, the axle was moving about a 1/8 inch and the outer side was moving about 20 thounends. I did not check that before I put the rear back together. so out comes the rear and back apart. I took the carrier apart and took the axels and put them in the carrier that they where in since new, and no movement so I took 1 step forward and 3 steps back. I wasted 11 hrs yesterday but sure learned a lot __________________ If it would have been a snake it would have bit ya! i can't spell my way out of a paper bag!