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10-13-2014, 12:48 PM | #1 |
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Restarting a model A after 64 years of sitting.
So I have bought a 1930 model A tudor that never has been restored and
last time ran in the 50's The model A spend most if it's time in Paris France but since a few years she is here in Belgium. Because it is the "european" model A it has the small bore 2.2 engine. She is all original and almost 100% complete, now the plan is not to restore the car only restore the mechanical part of it. I went over the engine and it still has really good compression and seems to be that there is "fresh" oil in it (only checked the dip stick). What I was planning to do was 1. Getting the gastank out and restoring it 2. New fuel line 3. Rebuilding the carb 4. New distributor, sparkplugs and wires, coil, battery 5. New alternator 6. Leakless waterpump 7. Checking carterpan for slutch 8. Checking the head 9. New oil 10. Redoing the wiring Is there something else I mist? This will be the first pre war and american car that I will work on, tips? Below are a couple of pictures of the model A |
10-13-2014, 12:55 PM | #2 |
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Neat car. How's the interior? Love the 'Spark Plug Wires'...
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10-13-2014, 01:05 PM | #3 |
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Re: Restarting a model A after 64 years of sitting.
What is wrong with the wires? ^^
The interior is what you would aspect for a car that is sitting for such a long time. Driver seat is ripped and back seat is missing, the part where you sit on anyweighs |
10-13-2014, 01:31 PM | #4 |
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Very Nice Good Luck with it !!!!
What kind of Carb is that on there? Make sure you clean out the oil pan or sump before you run the engine. John Cochran |
10-13-2014, 01:41 PM | #5 |
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That looks like a great car! I have a 30 Tudor, as well, so am very interested in your project. From what is said on this forum by experienced people, be sure to check your fan for cracks before running the car.
Good luck, David in North Carolina |
10-13-2014, 01:47 PM | #6 |
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10-13-2014, 02:01 PM | #7 |
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Re: Restarting a model A after 64 years of sitting.
Looks like a Tillotson to me.
Original Model A used copper strips instead of modern insulated wire. Like this: http://www.macsautoparts.com/ford_mo...-b-engine.html Nice car. Best wishes on getting it running again. |
10-13-2014, 02:17 PM | #8 |
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10-13-2014, 02:18 PM | #9 |
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Setting that long, chances are it wasn't turned over much. In a case like if it was exposed to any kind of sweating, all the oil grooves in the babbitt would have rust in them.
If it does, and you start it with out looking you will do much damage the the babbitt. It will all so have rust holes in the crank that are sharp and will eat babbitt. Herm. |
10-13-2014, 02:21 PM | #10 |
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10-13-2014, 02:25 PM | #11 |
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Welcome! Drain all of the fluids and refill. There is no real need to pull the head unless the gasket is shot and sounds like it isn't. Run some water through the radiator a few times to clean the rust out. As for the tank, run a bunch of carb cleaner through it to dislodge and remove the rust. Anything that evaporate and does not leave a residue. You may want to even pull the valve cover off and clean the sludge out of the galley-if there is any.
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10-13-2014, 02:26 PM | #13 |
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If it's original, keep it that way... clean it up a bit leave it as is....
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10-13-2014, 02:31 PM | #14 | |
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Sow I don't necessarily have to professionaly let the gastank cleaned out? I will try to put carbcleaner down there and see what is does. thnx |
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10-13-2014, 02:35 PM | #15 |
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That is the plan, here in Europe it is rare to find an all original non restored model a, if not hardly impossible. One happy dude right here!!
Wish it had the big bore though.. think 20hp will be a pit to few for the weight of the car. |
10-13-2014, 02:35 PM | #16 |
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Pour some in and slosh it around, drain, repeat. This may take a few runs and you may need to remove it to do this depending on the amount of rust. Brent may chime in here about the tank, listen to him he knows it all.
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10-13-2014, 02:37 PM | #17 |
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Do they check the bore and stroke when you register it? How would they know if you bored it to stock Model A specs?
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The engine will look more original if you buy the choke rod, correct carb, coil wire, and spark plug straps. |
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10-13-2014, 02:39 PM | #19 |
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Oke thanks Mike, where can I find Brent?
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10-13-2014, 02:41 PM | #20 |
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He goes by 'Brent in ten-uh-c' on here. You can shoo him a private message and see what he says.
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