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t-head · 03-19-2014, 05:52 AM

The M.C. Rogers Engineering Speed Equipment Model "A" Showpiece: Check out this cool mobile showroom that Rodger's built in 1931 to show off the speed equipment they manufactured. See an interesting photo of the glass-paneled hood and the engine with the Trojan Dome Head and Dual Carb Manifold on The Old Motor.

1930artdeco · 03-19-2014, 09:00 AM

There two different trucks in these photos. The first one in the thread has a chicken wire side hood panel and I just noticed an early 28 rear bumper. The one in the link has a glass hood side panel. The way I noticed them as being different is the fuel/vacuum lines are different. Either that or they were taken at different times during the trucks life time but I doubt that.

Mike

Tiny · 03-19-2014, 09:42 AM

Neat pic thanks for sharing. I wish I had that setup on my coupe!! It looks like 32 wheels also!

zzlegend · 03-19-2014, 09:46 AM

Nice picture. Wonder where that truck is today? Hum.

Bob-A · 03-19-2014, 10:30 AM

I think the two pics have the same truck. The wire mesh you see in the first pic is a type of safety glass reinforcement. You can't see the mesh in the second pic due to the angle of the opened hood which caused a reflection on the glass. Also, you are looking at the fuel/vacuum lines at two different angles. The wheels have split ring rims and are not Ford, maybe Lincoln?? Whatever?!?...one cool looking rig!

Bob-A

BlueSunoco · 03-19-2014, 10:42 AM

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Lordy Lordy,,, a modified Model A go over to the H.A.M.B. forum you

Neat picture thanks I really enjoy seeing them! And the old gas pumps too.

Purdy Swoft · 03-19-2014, 11:09 AM

Here is my Trojan dual updraft. I use B carbs on mine. I see that they have the chokes connected, I'll bet that it was easy to flood. I only use the choke on the front carb, same on my speedster with a Uni Flo dual updraft with B carbs.

1930artdeco · 03-19-2014, 11:14 AM

OK Bob, you are right, I was looking at them at a different angle.

Mike

Tiny · 03-19-2014, 11:17 AM

Purdy your killing me!!!

kelley's restoration · 03-19-2014, 12:58 PM

that hood is cool
i think i may make one like it
tk

t-head · 03-19-2014, 02:09 PM

Glad that you are enjoying the photos, it is such a neat truck. It would be interesting to learn more about the body - was it made by Ford, or an outside supplier? Other photos of these bodies have been seen that feature smooth upper side panels and faux carriage lamps and we have always been curious about them.

Hicktick · 03-19-2014, 02:52 PM

I am sure the glass hood panel caused vapor lock in Calf. heat .

t-head · 03-21-2014, 12:05 PM

After doing some research it was found the this truck is wearing Dayton wire wheels w/lock-rings which where available at the time.

It would be interesting to see what you Model "A" experts know about the body - was it made by Ford, or an outside supplier?

Fordors · 03-21-2014, 12:33 PM

Info from Ford Life, Volume 4 Number 2, March-April 1974 tells is that "...by the addition of 17" accessory lock ring wheels and a strange body shape the familiar lines of a 1931 Model A Ford Deluxe Delivery show through. The company seems to have gone to great pains to obtain a custom look as the reveals and rear body section, as well as the top outline, had been altered." Also noted was the (in their words) alien rear bumper. Their photo is cropped and does not show the open end of what has to be an early '28 bumper as noted before.
This photo shows that only one side of the hood had the glass panel, only the Trojan set-up needed to be highlighted.

t-head · 03-21-2014, 04:40 PM

Fordors: Thanks for the info that was in the Ford Life. Whoever wrote what you posted appears to think that the standard "1931 Model A Ford Deluxe Delivery" body was customized.

We have a vague recollection of seeing other bodies in this same exact style. Can anyone tell us more about this delivery body?

1931 flamingo · 03-21-2014, 04:59 PM

Looks like it's got a stoneguard also. MY, my.
Paul in CT

SkipShift · 03-21-2014, 05:25 PM

Extra power and cooling is needed to get up Nob Hill.

Fordors · 03-21-2014, 06:02 PM

Lots of differences here, look at the passenger side tail lamp, the Deluxe Delivery had a low, center mounted lamp. As far as the bodies go Budd and Briggs built the DD's for Ford AFAIK, but this one has the roof fabric starting higher up the side profile and the upper reveal is eliminated too. Delivery's and sedans had that fabric cut on an angle at the rear corner as compared to the Rogers truck, and the side panels are flush, not inset like a regular Delivery where it looks like an elongated, blanked out window opening, and the upswept reveal continuing from the side reveal is missing too.. Rear quarter looks longer in back of fender, might be less of a radius to rear of body, and the quarters don't wrap around like a typical sedan based body, there is a vertical seam where the rear panel is joined to the quarters. Also, a drip rail was added over the doors. Looks like it was extensively modified to my eye.

Dave Mellor NJ · 03-22-2014, 01:37 AM

looks like the back corner of the door is rounded like a 32-34 pickup door and the front bumper has the typical sag towards the driver's side.

Roadster62 · 03-22-2014, 01:55 AM

Note the chromed windsheild frame. Is that visor a standard 30-31? Bob

03-19-2014, 05:52 AM	#1
t-head Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: In my machine shop. Posts: 1,047	Neat Period Photo of The M.C. Rogers Engineering Equipment Model "A" Showpiece The M.C. Rogers Engineering Speed Equipment Model "A" Showpiece: Check out this cool mobile showroom that Rodger's built in 1931 to show off the speed equipment they manufactured. See an interesting photo of the glass-paneled hood and the engine with the Trojan Dome Head and Dual Carb Manifold on The Old Motor. Last edited by t-head; 03-19-2014 at 04:01 PM.

03-19-2014, 09:00 AM	#2
1930artdeco Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Lynden, Wa Posts: 3,552	Re: Neat Period Photo of The M.C. Rodgers Engineering Equipment Model "A" Showpiece There two different trucks in these photos. The first one in the thread has a chicken wire side hood panel and I just noticed an early 28 rear bumper. The one in the link has a glass hood side panel. The way I noticed them as being different is the fuel/vacuum lines are different. Either that or they were taken at different times during the trucks life time but I doubt that. Mike __________________ 1930 TownSedan (Briggs) 1957 Country Sedan

03-19-2014, 09:42 AM	#3
Tiny Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Redding Cal Posts: 1,388	Re: Neat Period Photo of The M.C. Rodgers Engineering Equipment Model "A" Showpiece Neat pic thanks for sharing. I wish I had that setup on my coupe!! It looks like 32 wheels also! __________________ Blackwall Panthers Nor Cal chapter

03-19-2014, 09:46 AM	#4
zzlegend Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Reseda, Calif. Posts: 2,188	Re: Neat Period Photo of The M.C. Rodgers Engineering Equipment Model "A" Showpiece Nice picture. Wonder where that truck is today? Hum.

03-19-2014, 10:30 AM	#5
Bob-A Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Central FL, USA Posts: 1,138	Re: Neat Period Photo of The M.C. Rodgers Engineering Equipment Model "A" Showpiece I think the two pics have the same truck. The wire mesh you see in the first pic is a type of safety glass reinforcement. You can't see the mesh in the second pic due to the angle of the opened hood which caused a reflection on the glass. Also, you are looking at the fuel/vacuum lines at two different angles. The wheels have split ring rims and are not Ford, maybe Lincoln?? Whatever?!?...one cool looking rig! Bob-A

03-19-2014, 10:42 AM	#6
BlueSunoco Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Windy City Posts: 937	Re: Neat Period Photo of The M.C. Rodgers Engineering Equipment Model "A" Showpiece Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Lordy Lordy,,, a modified Model A go over to the H.A.M.B. forum you Neat picture thanks I really enjoy seeing them! And the old gas pumps too.

03-19-2014, 11:09 AM	#7
Purdy Swoft Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Alabama Posts: 8,099	Re: Neat Period Photo of The M.C. Rodgers Engineering Equipment Model "A" Showpiece Here is my Trojan dual updraft. I use B carbs on mine. I see that they have the chokes connected, I'll bet that it was easy to flood. I only use the choke on the front carb, same on my speedster with a Uni Flo dual updraft with B carbs.

03-19-2014, 11:14 AM	#8
1930artdeco Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Lynden, Wa Posts: 3,552	Re: Neat Period Photo of The M.C. Rodgers Engineering Equipment Model "A" Showpiece OK Bob, you are right, I was looking at them at a different angle. Mike __________________ 1930 TownSedan (Briggs) 1957 Country Sedan

03-19-2014, 11:17 AM	#9
Tiny Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Redding Cal Posts: 1,388	Re: Neat Period Photo of The M.C. Rodgers Engineering Equipment Model "A" Showpiece Purdy your killing me!!! __________________ Blackwall Panthers Nor Cal chapter

03-19-2014, 12:58 PM	#10
kelley's restoration Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: 60046 Posts: 888	Re: Neat Period Photo of The M.C. Rodgers Engineering Equipment Model "A" Showpiece that hood is cool i think i may make one like it tk __________________ anyone need some Model A restoration work done in Illinois? shoot me an email for pics and information [email protected]

03-19-2014, 02:09 PM	#11
t-head Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: In my machine shop. Posts: 1,047	Re: Neat Period Photo of The M.C. Rodgers Engineering Equipment Model "A" Showpiece Glad that you are enjoying the photos, it is such a neat truck. It would be interesting to learn more about the body - was it made by Ford, or an outside supplier? Other photos of these bodies have been seen that feature smooth upper side panels and faux carriage lamps and we have always been curious about them.

03-19-2014, 02:52 PM	#12
Hicktick Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Hickory Tavern , SC Posts: 422	Re: Neat Period Photo of The M.C. Rogers Engineering Equipment Model "A" Showpiece I am sure the glass hood panel caused vapor lock in Calf. heat .

03-21-2014, 12:05 PM	#13
t-head Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: In my machine shop. Posts: 1,047	Re: Neat Period Photo of The M.C. Rogers Engineering Equipment Model "A" Showpiece After doing some research it was found the this truck is wearing Dayton wire wheels w/lock-rings which where available at the time. It would be interesting to see what you Model "A" experts know about the body - was it made by Ford, or an outside supplier?

03-21-2014, 04:40 PM	#15
t-head Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: In my machine shop. Posts: 1,047	Re: Neat Period Photo of The M.C. Rogers Engineering Equipment Model "A" Showpiece Fordors: Thanks for the info that was in the Ford Life. Whoever wrote what you posted appears to think that the standard "1931 Model A Ford Deluxe Delivery" body was customized. We have a vague recollection of seeing other bodies in this same exact style. Can anyone tell us more about this delivery body?

03-21-2014, 04:59 PM	#16
1931 flamingo Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: new britain,ct 06052 Posts: 9,390	Re: Neat Period Photo of The M.C. Rogers Engineering Equipment Model "A" Showpiece Looks like it's got a stoneguard also. MY, my. Paul in CT

03-21-2014, 05:25 PM	#17
SkipShift Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Traverse City, Mi Posts: 185	Re: Neat Period Photo of The M.C. Rogers Engineering Equipment Model "A" Showpiece Extra power and cooling is needed to get up Nob Hill.

03-21-2014, 06:02 PM	#18
Fordors Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Orland Park,IL Posts: 1,402	Re: Neat Period Photo of The M.C. Rogers Engineering Equipment Model "A" Showpiece Lots of differences here, look at the passenger side tail lamp, the Deluxe Delivery had a low, center mounted lamp. As far as the bodies go Budd and Briggs built the DD's for Ford AFAIK, but this one has the roof fabric starting higher up the side profile and the upper reveal is eliminated too. Delivery's and sedans had that fabric cut on an angle at the rear corner as compared to the Rogers truck, and the side panels are flush, not inset like a regular Delivery where it looks like an elongated, blanked out window opening, and the upswept reveal continuing from the side reveal is missing too.. Rear quarter looks longer in back of fender, might be less of a radius to rear of body, and the quarters don't wrap around like a typical sedan based body, there is a vertical seam where the rear panel is joined to the quarters. Also, a drip rail was added over the doors. Looks like it was extensively modified to my eye.

03-22-2014, 01:37 AM	#19
Dave Mellor NJ Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 781	Re: Neat Period Photo of The M.C. Rogers Engineering Equipment Model "A" Showpiece looks like the back corner of the door is rounded like a 32-34 pickup door and the front bumper has the typical sag towards the driver's side.

03-22-2014, 01:55 AM	#20
Roadster62 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Ridgefield, Ct Posts: 3,441	Re: Neat Period Photo of The M.C. Rogers Engineering Equipment Model "A" Showpiece Note the chromed windsheild frame. Is that visor a standard 30-31? Bob __________________ They don't have to run to be enjoyed. I'm here to enjoy the hobby, and enjoy the cars no matter what they look like. Most of the worlds problems are electrical.