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Old 12-23-2012, 10:53 AM   #41
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I think you were fine to send a email to the seller. You didn't badger him.

As mentioned by a few, 3bay = Buyer beware.

I would hope if you were putting down 20k for a car, you'd research or have someone knowledgeable help you identify any problems.

It's a nice looking vehicle.

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Old 12-23-2012, 11:01 AM   #42
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As far as I know, Marco has the only perfect Model A out there.

OK, purists, go forth and critique all the others!
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Old 12-23-2012, 11:05 AM   #43
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Lightbulb Ask a Question ...

Ebay is a place to sell

" Ask a Question " is for prospective buyers to ask a question about
an item they are interested in bidding on before auction end before
they place a bid ...

It is up to the Seller to do their research and represent the item
they are selling truthfully and to the best of their knowledge
prior to listin it ....

The OP of this thread was not a prospective bidder ....





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Old 12-23-2012, 12:32 PM   #44
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Old 12-23-2012, 12:37 PM   #45
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As far as I know, Marco has the only perfect Model A out there.

OK, purists, go forth and critique all the others!
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Old 12-23-2012, 01:01 PM   #46
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IMHO you were wrong. It sounds like the seller is ignorant about Model A's but is very defensive as he no doubt paid too much for the car. You would go nuts trying to educate all the "ignorant" sellers on 3bay
Any prospective buyer who is unsure about the car or is really concerned about getting burnt should invest in a trip to see it in person and hire someone knowledgeable in the vehicle.
Never spend more than you can afford. Most cars are a poor investment, they are just a lot of fun.
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Old 12-23-2012, 02:32 PM   #47
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For those who are unfamiliar with the "Traveler" or camper, here are some pics of one that was original and restored nicely. Oops, I meant unoriginal and then copied well.
http://www.hotrodsbyhg.com/current_p...y%20Camper.htm
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Old 12-23-2012, 03:47 PM   #48
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There's another thing missing from the ebay car ... the canoe!
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Old 12-23-2012, 04:04 PM   #49
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I've read the Original Post, and none of the Forum replies. Without seeing the eBay auction I have no idea what the vehicle looks like, that being said, I'd never take the time to play Model A Police. Merry Christmas. Bob
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Old 12-23-2012, 04:19 PM   #50
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This thread reminds me a little of the Great E-Bay Shay Model A Controversy that played out some months ago on this forum. That was the one where the seller could not be convinced his Shay was not an authentic Model A car.

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Old 12-23-2012, 06:02 PM   #51
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i don't think I would buy Model A or any car off Ebay that was claimed to be a total frame up Restoration.especially at that prices with out going to look and see how authentic the job. And since I am no were near to being and expert I would probably ask some with a good knowledge of model A's with me. "Let the buyer beware" I know it would be impossible for all the experts on the Form to fooled. But how would you liked it if you brought a car form " A shifty eyed used car dealer that claims it was a authentic restoration. Then take to a club meeting or show some of your friends and they start picking it apart. All because no body had the balls to try and let people know.I think it's a nice looking woody.At that price I can't afford it anyway! Sorry if I offened anyone. Richard.
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Old 12-23-2012, 06:17 PM   #52
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I've tried to "relay" information to a few greedBay auctioners in the past.
Either they appreciated the info and relayed it with a completely wrong
interpretation as to what I said on the item site! And/or, they stopped the auction and restarted it later at a higher opening or reserve price.

One of my favorite pass times is find things on greedBay that people do
not know what it is they are auctioning and I do. Oh' boy, a deal......
until somebody else also knows what it is and out bids me....."the so & so
blankity-blank momma' lover......."

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Old 12-24-2012, 02:32 PM   #53
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Brett and Vulture have a good question. What is an expert? And I would like to know why some one with a vast knowledge of somethings would be called an ex anyway? I was told in my Army days there was no such person as a expert in the Demolition and Mine Warfare class I was taking. Because once you new it all you would not be around to tell about it. I think an expert use to be a pert what ever that was.
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Old 12-24-2012, 02:59 PM   #54
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Ok, This is in part some of the answer I got after telling him that the car was not an original one because they never made one in 1930, the wood type & the way it was built was wrong, plus many mix & match parts were added to it.. I don`t know who you are and really don`t care! However, I am sure you are one of the Model A club members. I have had the pleasure of talking and dealing with some of the members in the past. Most were extemely nice. However, there are a few of the members (jack asses) that they think they know everything about everything, This truck was traded to me. Everthing that I described was furnished to me by the documents that I have and the facts that were presented to me. here are some facts; Ford products are piles of shit vintage or new. They helped people move around and about as a necessity in the early years. A perfect car for the blue collar working class. None of the old and new models have any characters or performance. Your bitter judgment explains your low menthal state of mind and social communication skills of the Ford followers. The most expensive Ford model A is worth less than $30,000 . That attacts people in your social status and means. Therefore, I can not expect too much from you. I encourage you to come by and inspect my 1923 Bentley Open Tourer ( 1 of 7 made)and valued over a Million Dollar. I bet you will be speechless and would not dare to express any opinion. I encourage you to just stay and chat on line with people of yor level. P.S. The above spelling was his also..
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Ok, This is in part some of the answer I got after telling him that the car was not an original one because they never made one in 1930, the wood type & the way it was built was wrong, plus many mix & match parts were added to it.. I don`t know who you are and really don`t care! However, I am sure you are one of the Model A club members. I have had the pleasure of talking and dealing with some of the members in the past. Most were extemely nice. However, there are a few of the members (jack asses) that they think they know everything about everything, This truck was traded to me. Everthing that I described was furnished to me by the documents that I have and the facts that were presented to me. here are some facts; Ford products are piles of shit vintage or new. They helped people move around and about as a necessity in the early years. A perfect car for the blue collar working class. None of the old and new models have any characters or performance. Your bitter judgment explains your low menthal state of mind and social communication skills of the Ford followers. The most expensive Ford model A is worth less than $30,000 . That attacts people in your social status and means. Therefore, I can not expect too much from you. I encourage you to come by and inspect my 1923 Bentley Open Tourer ( 1 of 7 made)and valued over a Million Dollar. I bet you will be speechless and would not dare to express any opinion. I encourage you to just stay and chat on line with people of yor level. P.S. The above spelling was his also..
His statement is a very clear indication of what kind of person he is, and I would avoid doing any kind of business with such a person.
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Old 12-24-2012, 03:11 PM   #56
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Fred, Tell him if he had "REAL" class he'd own a Rolls Royce, rather than the lower priced Bentley.
Weren't Bentleys for the servants to go grocery shopping in?
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Guys like that have no idea how to enjoy an automobile; they can only brag about how much they spent. Not a real enthusiast, just an A-ho.
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Fred, that is a great summation and spot on the way I read his pompous reply.
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