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Old 10-31-2011, 04:25 PM   #1
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What radiator do people recommend. Anyone using the Brassworks round tube?
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Old 10-31-2011, 04:27 PM   #2
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I prefer the Berg radiator over the Brassworks. I also have a Berg round tube, that I haven't tried as yet, which is beautiful. Great people as well. Gar Williams
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New ones.

No really, you need to narrow down your question.

Show or go?
heavy duty or regular?
After market assessories or original?
Recored or completely new?
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Old 10-31-2011, 04:57 PM   #4
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He DID, "Round Tube" The Brassworks one does not fit, Does not have Original upper & lower tanks & side rails & You can not put a Motor Meter on it with out bending the inside top over flow tube (maybe)..
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Old 10-31-2011, 05:09 PM   #5
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I'm in Australia so we get 90deg temps so this does not mix well with show. Not too sure what I can also add. I'm new to this so its fairly open ended at the moment.
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Old 10-31-2011, 10:03 PM   #6
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I have a Brassworks radiator in my '31 Tudor. It was an easy installation, looks great and works well here in Georgia. I have a Motor-Meter on it and it installs very easily. I have had it on and off a few times; no problems.
They have been good people to deal with and I would recommend the Brass Works radiators!
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I too would recommend Burgs radiator (618-231-3507). I have purchased 3 from him and they all fit great.
I purchased a radiator from Brassworks. The upper funnel was 7/8 inch too low. I called Brassworks and they said to send it back and they would make me another. I told them that I would like to know the root cause of why it was too low. The top radiator hose would kink up when I tried to put it on.
My car is a 1929 Town Sedan. In October 1929 Ford changed the mounting surface for the radiator pads. They lowered the pads 3/8 of an inch and added 3/8 of an inch shim on each side until the end of 1929 production. I put 3/8 shim under the mounting pad and the radiator was still 1/2 inch too low. A Friend of mine had an original 1929 Ford radiator and he brought it over and it fit like a glove. We laid both radiators down side by side and we found that the angle of the funnel was not the same on the two. We also noted that the boss that the funnel was supposed to set in side was not correct on the Brassworks radiator it was 1/2" too low. I sent pictures back to Brassworks and Mr. Lee said send radiator back and he will build a new one. I shipped it back and it cost $75 shipping. Two weeks latter Brass works called and wanted to charge shipping for the new radiator. I told them no that I had paid for shipping two times and that I was not going to pay for shipping the third time. I asked for my $75 back and was told they would not pay return shipping. Brassworks said that they would send me a refund if I was not happy but not return shipping. They did send me my refund back but not the $75 return shipping. If the second radiator was also bad I would have to pay shipping back to them again. How many times do I should I have to pay for a defective radiator that was the manufactures fault? See pictures on the attachment to the right.Five eights of an inch too low.pdf
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Old 11-01-2011, 11:45 AM   #8
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I installed a HD 10 tube Brassworks in the coupe . Had problems with the moto-meter fitting in the neck. Wrote Brassworks a E-mail about it. They acted like they had never heard of such a problem (WHAT CRAP) Everyone has that problem with Brassworks. To make it fit Modify the moto-meter with a Dremel Tool don't mess up the neck. I will say its a well made product, as far as cooling goes.
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How many times do I should I have to pay for a defective radiator that was the manufactures fault? See pictures on the attachment to the right.Attachment 60004

We went throught this before, but it sure seems to me that they really don't care. That does not mean that they can't do it, they want to make what they want, how they want, and charge what they want.

If a manufacturer makes a mistake they should pay for shipping back and forth to get it right. If the customer makes a mistake and orders the wrong part or is trying to fit it in a changed car, or has tried to modify it in any way, then the customer should pay for the shipping.

We need more "Bergs" out there to take the business from those that don't care.
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Old 11-01-2011, 08:06 PM   #10
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I have a Brassworks. Saving my money for a Bergs.

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Old 11-01-2011, 08:30 PM   #11
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I've never had a bergs, but after dealing with Brassworks we will never be going back there. So my next new one will be a bergs.
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Old 11-01-2011, 09:24 PM   #12
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I read in an above response about round tubes. I have also read in other references that there are three rows to a radiator. Question is are the tubes in an original round or flat and are the rows correct?
Thanks for your time.
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Old 11-01-2011, 10:30 PM   #13
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I installed a new Brassworks radiator in my 30 Coupe. I couldn't install my original Cap or a Motometer Locking Cap. A replacement Cap would mount OK.
When I called the new owner of the Brassworks and told him my problem, he said they farm out the building of the necks and knows they are not right but if he complains the builder of the necks will tell him to go somwhere else. The new owner of the Brassworks certainly does not operate like the previous or original owner did.
I personally will never purchase another Brassworks radiator; will use original top and bottom tanks and sides and have a new core installed by a radiator shop in Sparks, Nevada; they have been in business over 30 years and can obtain new cores, original or heavy duty, and guarantee their work.
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Old 11-01-2011, 10:33 PM   #14
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Round tube would be the original one, not sure about rows. How much better are the flat tube over round tube? 10-20-30-40%
My car is very original so I'm a little hesitant to move over to the flat tube.
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Old 11-01-2011, 10:35 PM   #15
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Anyone here running a round tube?
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Old 11-01-2011, 10:36 PM   #16
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Round tube would be the original one, not sure about rows. How much better are the flat tube over round tube? 10-20-30-40%
My car is very original so I'm a little hesitant to move over to the flat tube.
What year is your car?

1928-9 had round tubes and 1930-1 had flat tubes.
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Old 11-01-2011, 10:39 PM   #17
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Its a 28 but built in 27:-)
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Old 11-01-2011, 10:48 PM   #18
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rossofozini

I recommend finding enough good original parts or a good radiator to rebuild.
This summer I salvaged my '30 Phaeton core and located a good lower tank with the strap intact, and a top tank I only had to fix one .38 hole and an exit wound out the inlet tube. Looks and works really well.


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According the the most current Judging Standards:

1928-29

'28 - '29 Ford Core 94 Round Seamed Tubes set in 4 Rows

'29 Flintock 100 Seamed Round Tubes set in 4 Rows

'29 McCord 87 Seamed Tubes set in 5 Row

Cooling Fins Straight

1930 - 1931

Ford 102 Oblong Tubes set in 3 Rows

136 Oblong Tubes set in 4 Rows - Commercial

Cooling Fins Dimpled at Front of Radiator.

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Old 11-02-2011, 02:27 AM   #19
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Lots of talk about fins and tubes

http://www.rockymountainmodelaclub.o...#_Toc198260250
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Thanks to rossofozini for the info with the attachment and also to Darryl in Fairbanks for your info. Appreciate both.
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