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Old 12-30-2014, 01:47 AM   #1
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Default Not Model A: What happen to Model T number 77?

I was at the main Los Angeles library today looking at some Los Angeles Times archives. I came upon this May 25, 1919 article about Model T number 77 being in Los Angeles. I think you will find the article "Granddaddy of the Flivvers discovered in Los Angeles" interesting. I wonder what ever happened to number 77.
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Old 12-30-2014, 01:56 AM   #2
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Default Re: Not Model A: What happen to Model T number 77?

Can you copy and paste the article? It won't open for me.
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I love the reference to the "modern car." That's a neat story. Thanks for posting.
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Tom,
I tried to copy and paste the article, but could not. If you email me at [email protected] I will email you a copy.
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Old 12-30-2014, 02:31 AM   #5
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Maybe you open this version better?
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Old 12-30-2014, 03:09 AM   #6
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Interesting article! After reading it I have 3 questions:
What was the date of this articles first printing?
Did any of 1-76 survive?
Why did Model T come before Model A?
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Old 12-30-2014, 08:11 AM   #8
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Why did Model T come before Model A?

The Model T did NOT come before the Model A. The Model A came first in the present Ford Mtr. Company. Do a search on Ford 'Alphabet Cars'.
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Old 12-30-2014, 08:12 AM   #9
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Interesting article! After reading it I have 3 questions:
What was the date of this articles first printing?
Did any of 1-76 survive?
Why did Model T come before Model A?
Ford had already use the Model A before and got as far as model T. He then started over again with the 1928 Model A .
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Interesting article! After reading it I have 3 questions:
What was the date of this articles first printing?
Did any of 1-76 survive?
Why did Model T come before Model A?
Ford came out with the first Model A in 1903,then came B,C,F,K,N,R,S, then T in 1908. 1927 he started again with A.
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Letter cars,
The early Fords
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Old 12-30-2014, 09:45 AM   #12
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Engine number 77 is still owned by the City of Los Angeles. They had it and many of their other cars on loan to the Peterson-they were not technically owned by the Peterson. It is pictured in either one or both of Bruce Mc Calley's books: From Here to Obscurity and/or the Model T Ford Encyclopedia-I don't remember which one.
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Default Re: Not Model A: What happen to Model T number 77?

Funny to read a 100-year-old article that refers to an 11-year-old Model T as "old-timer" and "ancient"
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Default Re: Not Model A: What happen to Model T number 77?

I looked at page 19 of "Here to Obscurity". It shows a picture of the top of engine number 77, which is owned by the Los Angeles County Museum. It looks like it is in a frame, but may not be in the car any more?

GZ, was it just the engine that was on display and not the complete car?
If so, I wonder what happened to the compete car?
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Old 12-31-2014, 09:48 AM   #15
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Neil-It is just the engine/transmission assembly on the front part of a frame. That is all that was ever there. Nobody knows where the rest of the car went. The City of Los Angeles did at one time own Model T Serial Number 714. I am not sure if they still own it or not.
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Interesting article! After reading it I have 3 questions:
What was the date of this articles first printing?
Did any of 1-76 survive?
Why did Model T come before Model A?
The other T mentioned in the article was #3,058,769 and was "one of the newest" so that puts the date of the article around the end of April, 1919.
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Funny how times change. Even in the 50's a 6 year old car was considered overdue for replacement. My dad bought a new 1954 Ford Country Squire wagon and kept it until he traded it in on a new 1960 Valiant staion wagon. He usually traded every 3 or 4 years, as most of the neighbors did. Today I consider my 1999 Olds a fairly new car, even though it's 16 years old already.
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I believe #714 is the "Eastwood 1909 Ford" sad how that car and the others in the City Collection are never seen outside the basement. Bob


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Neil-It is just the engine/transmission assembly on the front part of a frame. That is all that was ever there. Nobody knows where the rest of the car went. The City of Los Angeles did at one time own Model T Serial Number 714. I am not sure if they still own it or not.
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