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37 Coupe · 04-17-2014, 08:50 AM

In one of his post I think he changed dist,cond,mayby not.

Seth Swoboda · 04-17-2014, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by 37 Coupe

In one of his post I think he changed dist,cond,mayby not.

You are correct. My next move is to check the timing. Put the engine at #1 TDC and re-set the distributor.

George/Maine · 04-17-2014, 12:05 PM

If its back firing look at the spark plugs and see if you have and odd one.
This maybe the one with valve stuck.
Remove the spark plug wire from that cylinder,
Then try and start it. May take few try's to get right one.
You could also have a few stuck valves.
Yes could be cam timing.

Lawson Cox · 04-17-2014, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by 37 Coupe

In one of his post I think he changed dist,cond,mayby not.

Yes, I changed the distributor along with all of its accouterments. Valves are free and working. Still acting the same.

George/Maine · 04-17-2014, 02:02 PM

I think you are correct in the timing being off.
Try the TDC and point to #1
It looks like you may have a pressed on cam gear and it may have slipped timing.

Lawson Cox · 04-20-2014, 12:38 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by George/Maine

I think you are correct in the timing being off.
Try the TDC and point to #1
It looks like you may have a pressed on cam gear and it may have slipped timing.

That is what I am thinking. Replacing is beyond my pay grade so I am going to have "Putt" Smith work on it for me.

flatmotor40 · 04-21-2014, 05:00 AM

Hey Lawson did the V8 club have the Easter parade get together this year or do they do that anymore.Used to go a few years ago to Avondale area

jimTN · 04-21-2014, 06:20 AM

Hello Lawson, just for grins and giggles, run a jumper wire direct from the bat to your coil and see if it starts and runs right. Doing this for a brief period will not cook your coil. This would eliminate everything but coil and below.

Lawson Cox · 04-21-2014, 10:36 AM

It is definitely a timing problem.

Brendan · 04-22-2014, 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Lawson Cox

It is definitely a timing problem.

I put a new cam in a 350 chebby I had. the timing chain was a double roller, and it has 3 marks to line it up with the dot on the crank. I put it in the wrong one. had one hell of a time to get it started, and when it ran it would spit gas out of the carb and had no power. I could run faster from a stop sine then the car would go. Lawson I hope you fined your trouble soon...Brendan

Brendan · 04-22-2014, 06:45 AM

oh, the timing gear was 3 teeth advanced!

Lawson Cox · 04-24-2014, 01:10 AM

I am in the process of doing MY LAST THING. I am removing timing gear cover to take a look see at timing gear. If it is aluminum bolt on, I am not sure where to go as that shouldn't give any problems. If fiber, off to the local guru.

George/Maine · 04-24-2014, 05:28 AM

I was thinking of your problem. If the cam has slipped your ign would look good.
If there was a key way or some kind of mark to time.
Some how you need TDC and check valve timing. I guess the easy way would be to Remove the head and check valve timing or intake manifold.
Exhaust Valve should be just closed at TDC
Work work I have to remove my engine its got a bearing rap.

Andy · 04-24-2014, 07:18 AM

Sorry to keep posting. It is a strange problem. I have trouble with the cam being out of time because the compression is OK. The engines with slipped timing chains I have worked on had lost most all compression. Maybe something gave way in the intake manifold. A passage from the exhaust to the intake or a huge vacumn leak would cause havoc. The intake is easier to pull than the front cover also.

04-17-2014, 08:50 AM	#41
37 Coupe Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,835	Re: I think I have stripped timing gear UPDATE In one of his post I think he changed dist,cond,mayby not. __________________ "Never complain,never explain"... Henry Ford II

04-17-2014, 12:05 PM	#43
George/Maine Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mid coast Maine Posts: 1,878	Re: I think I have stripped timing gear UPDATE If its back firing look at the spark plugs and see if you have and odd one. This maybe the one with valve stuck. Remove the spark plug wire from that cylinder, Then try and start it. May take few try's to get right one. You could also have a few stuck valves. Yes could be cam timing.

04-17-2014, 02:02 PM	#45
George/Maine Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mid coast Maine Posts: 1,878	Re: I think I have stripped timing gear UPDATE I think you are correct in the timing being off. Try the TDC and point to #1 It looks like you may have a pressed on cam gear and it may have slipped timing.

04-21-2014, 05:00 AM	#47
flatmotor40 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Georgia Posts: 611	Re: I think I have stripped timing gear UPDATE Hey Lawson did the V8 club have the Easter parade get together this year or do they do that anymore.Used to go a few years ago to Avondale area

04-21-2014, 06:20 AM	#48
jimTN Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Powell, TN Posts: 2,509	Re: I think I have stripped timing gear UPDATE Hello Lawson, just for grins and giggles, run a jumper wire direct from the bat to your coil and see if it starts and runs right. Doing this for a brief period will not cook your coil. This would eliminate everything but coil and below.

04-21-2014, 10:36 AM	#49
Lawson Cox Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Above the gnat line in Georgia Posts: 7,009	Re: I think I have stripped timing gear UPDATE It is definitely a timing problem. __________________ Life is like a roll of toilet paper. The closer to the end, the faster it goes. It is better to be seen, than viewed. "We sleep safe in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm".

04-22-2014, 06:45 AM	#51
Brendan Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: At my kitchen table in Santa Rosa, Ca Posts: 2,903	Re: I think I have stripped timing gear UPDATE oh, the timing gear was 3 teeth advanced! __________________ If it would have been a snake it would have bit ya! i can't spell my way out of a paper bag!

04-24-2014, 01:10 AM	#52
Lawson Cox Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Above the gnat line in Georgia Posts: 7,009	Re: I think I have stripped timing gear UPDATE I am in the process of doing MY LAST THING. I am removing timing gear cover to take a look see at timing gear. If it is aluminum bolt on, I am not sure where to go as that shouldn't give any problems. If fiber, off to the local guru. __________________ Life is like a roll of toilet paper. The closer to the end, the faster it goes. It is better to be seen, than viewed. "We sleep safe in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm".

04-24-2014, 05:28 AM	#53
George/Maine Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mid coast Maine Posts: 1,878	Re: I think I have stripped timing gear UPDATE I was thinking of your problem. If the cam has slipped your ign would look good. If there was a key way or some kind of mark to time. Some how you need TDC and check valve timing. I guess the easy way would be to Remove the head and check valve timing or intake manifold. Exhaust Valve should be just closed at TDC Work work I have to remove my engine its got a bearing rap.

04-24-2014, 07:18 AM	#54
Andy Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Kerrville, Tx Posts: 2,770	Re: I think I have stripped timing gear UPDATE Sorry to keep posting. It is a strange problem. I have trouble with the cam being out of time because the compression is OK. The engines with slipped timing chains I have worked on had lost most all compression. Maybe something gave way in the intake manifold. A passage from the exhaust to the intake or a huge vacumn leak would cause havoc. The intake is easier to pull than the front cover also.