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04-15-2014, 09:18 AM | #21 |
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Re: Water leaking around oil pan bolt on 59A
Ross, I bet you are correct.
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04-15-2014, 01:09 PM | #22 |
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Ah yes. A drip from above, not a seep from within.
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04-16-2014, 08:02 AM | #25 |
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You are right. I was picturing your first reply as meaning it came from above on the engine (hence my post after your's about leaky studs and gaskets). But now the idea that it dripped from the heater hoses seems even more probable to me. Sorry to not grasp your concept on the first go-round.
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04-16-2014, 08:45 AM | #26 |
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Look at the wetness along the mating surfaces in the picture. It came from elsewhere. |
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I may be old, but I can still recall the wetness along the mating surfaces.....
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04-17-2014, 01:31 PM | #28 |
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Mystery solved. Leak found. (Ross F-1 was right on.)
I was still getting water on the floor under that oil pan bolt. So, I removed the floor and that platform above the starter was loaded with water/anti-freeze. But, it didn't seem to have come from that oil pan bolt as I had originally supposed. So, I wiped and blew everything off and started the engine and watched. In no time the water was accumulating there again but did not seem to be coming from that bolt. But, I could see an itsy bitsy trickle coming down the bell housing. So, up to the engine compartment I went searching again on the intake manifold for any leakage from the radiator hose I just replaced. Nothing. Then I saw this drip. Coming from the end of the heater hose clamp bolt. In fact, you can see that the hose is almost pulled off of the heater pipe. That will have to be shoved back on, the clamp tightened, and we should be good to go for the road trip tomorrow.. Thanks for all of your help. It was, indeed, something from above. I just had to find it.
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04-17-2014, 02:43 PM | #29 |
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Cool shot catching the drip like that.
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04-17-2014, 03:23 PM | #30 |
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While you're there you can get a bit of grease on that throttle ball and oil the throttle pedal pivot. Preventative maintenance is the key.
It looks like the hose could do with being a bit longer, hard to tell from the photo. Glad you found the source of the drip. Mart. |
04-17-2014, 03:29 PM | #31 |
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The hose was actually drooping under the throttle rod when it should have been going straight above it effectively shortening it. That's why it was pulling off, plus the poorly designed original stock style hose clamps that, once the two ends of the clamp are screwed clear together, there is no more tightening and that one was all the way tight but not tight enough. I straightened the hose to run above the throttle rod which pushed it onto the heater pipe as it was and put modern spiral screw clamps on and so far it's holding the pressurized water fine.
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04-17-2014, 03:33 PM | #32 |
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Re: Water leaking around oil pan bolt on 59A
Can't see the firewall hole in the picture, but it should be the same diameter as the heater hose. The correct installation has the hose going through the firewall with the clamp on the outside. This is per Ford specification due to vibration caused abrasion on the heater pipe, as well as the very thing that caused your leak.
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I have the fresh air heater with the coil right against the firewall so the hose can't go through the firewall. Maybe into it a bit but not through it. It may well be a better approach for the next time I take it apart.
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04-17-2014, 04:07 PM | #34 |
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Re: Water leaking around oil pan bolt on 59A
Where's your chatter rod for the right side?
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04-17-2014, 06:06 PM | #35 |
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No chatter rods on my '47 sedan. After Ford realized that they did little if anything to reduce clutch chatter they discontinued them some time prior to '47.
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Glad you found the source of your problem, professor. Now if I could be as lucky with finding out what is causing my backfire problem.
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Your insulation on the inside of the firewall is half an inch thick. That's all you need.
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04-18-2014, 10:34 AM | #38 |
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maybe I missed a post with an update, but how is the clutch chatter and the vibration?
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04-18-2014, 10:59 AM | #39 |
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Where did you get your information on this? Ford never identified the rods as "anti-chatter" but as engine radius rods.Their purpose was to keep the engine from moving forward and allowing the fan blade to chew into the radiator. With the same rear axle and torque tube design through 1948 I imagine the need was still there and it was the area Ford engineers found they could "economize" on like the steering /ignition switch coincedental lock.Still had thieves but it was on the list to cut cost.
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