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Old 09-23-2016, 11:10 PM   #1
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Default 59AB- I have never seen this done before.

Must have been trying to get more heat out of it up here in the Great White North. Hopefully I can patch it.
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Old 09-23-2016, 11:21 PM   #2
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Default Re: 59AB- I have never seen this done before.

Being from Minnesota, I kinda like that. Looks like an easy fix, though.
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Old 09-24-2016, 05:19 AM   #3
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Default Re: 59AB- I have never seen this done before.

Possibly for a second heater in a commercial crew-cab type application.
And what's up with the dual sheave water pump and stud-less heads?
Allen type pipe plug will fix the hole.
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Old 09-24-2016, 08:42 AM   #4
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Default Re: 59AB- I have never seen this done before.

Wouldn't that discharge cold water from the bottom of the radiator?
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Old 09-24-2016, 08:59 AM   #5
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Wouldn't that discharge cold water from the bottom of the radiator?
LOL, don't think you are going to be getting any "cold" water out of a running engine, but I get the point. The water at that point should be at a lower temperature than the water exiting the head.
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I thought about the water temperature issue too, not the best spot for sure. At least until the engine warms up.
What's wierd about the dual pulleys is the crank has two, but only one lines up with the pumps. The outside crank pulley is clearly for a fan.
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Old 09-24-2016, 09:22 AM   #7
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LOL, don't think you are going to be getting any "cold" water out of a running engine, but I get the point. The water at that point should be at a lower temperature than the water exiting the head.
Yeah, I was using that as a relative term. But if it was running in Alaska, it just might be truly cold.
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Old 09-24-2016, 11:43 AM   #8
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Cast iron pipe plug would be better. Plumbing supply store.
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Old 09-24-2016, 04:26 PM   #9
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Considering that all the pipe fittings on the engine are not cast iron, why would it be better to use a cast iron plug in this case?
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Default Re: 59AB- I have never seen this done before.

The last time I plugged a block I used a brass plug.
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This is the strange pulley arrangement.
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This is the strange pulley arrangement.
Suspect that it was in commercial vehicle with added components that were powered off of the additional pulleys.
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Old 09-24-2016, 11:22 PM   #13
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Could be for a governor
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Old 09-25-2016, 05:05 AM   #14
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Thems regular "truck" type heavy duty pumps. Quite common over here (UK)
There good pumps, they have a proper sealed bearing in them, not the bushing like the single belt type.
Thames (Ford commercial division in UK) trucks n lorries had them, the ones I've seen used two belts in the stock setup, ie not driving accessories. Just crank, pumps, generator all the pulleys were twin sheve.
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Old 09-25-2016, 08:30 PM   #15
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Default Re: 59AB- I have never seen this done before.

I think it was probably for a "tank heater" for keeping the cooling system warm in the winter. what do you think Ralph? you know about those things I am sure. maybe I am not seeing the problem.
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Old 09-25-2016, 09:17 PM   #16
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I think this is like many of these old Fords I have encountered up here.
These were every day drivers and people did some interesting things to stay warm.
I have a 47 Coupe In the shop now that had four heaters on it, three coolant and one hot air(an under the hood heater core that blows hot air in the cabin).
Is just seems that after a certain point you can't get any more heat out of these old flatheads.

Maybe you don't see the same sort of set up down there in the banana belt.
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Old 09-25-2016, 09:31 PM   #17
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I think it was probably for a "tank heater" for keeping the cooling system warm in the winter. what do you think Ralph? you know about those things I am sure. maybe I am not seeing the problem.
Jim, your right on. I actually have a brand new universal "tank" (block) heater for tractors or cars and it has a fitting that looks just like the one pictured. You would need one of those things in an Alaskan winter.
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Old 09-26-2016, 11:07 AM   #18
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Default Re: 59AB- I have never seen this done before.

The pump/pulley setup is a mix-match of parts. These pumps were commercial pumps and they originally used a dual-sheeve crank and generator pulleys. It appears they stuck them on this engine - cause they fit! As others noted, these were typically a better pump than a single-sheeve version (due to bearings versus bushings) - they could take more belt load as a result. These pumps were also used with many of the early McCullock and SCoT blower setups. I can't help yah on the heater - looks like somebody "solved a problem" their own way . . . if only these motors could talk!

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Old 09-26-2016, 01:10 PM   #19
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Default Re: 59AB- I have never seen this done before.

A good friend of mine put a Corvair heater in his old 53 F-100 so he could get some warmth for those Idaho winter mornings. He left the hot water type in there but it took forever to get warm. That little gasoline combustion heater gets hot right now so there is no waiting around.
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I had a 41 Chevy with a SouthWind. Loved that heater!
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