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CC33 · 10-26-2011, 07:55 PM

I am looking to add dual temp gauges under the dash. Currently has a '36 motor with rebuilt water pumps, still 6 volt. What type of senders and gauges should I use, and how are they wired?

B Duncan · 10-26-2011, 09:01 PM

I am running mechanical Stewart Warner dual temp gauges. I have a 3 space cluster with the driver head on the left, oil pressure in the middle and the passenger head on the right side. With 180 deg. T-stats the driver side runs a lil over 165, and the passenger runs a lil over 175. As far as lighting goes, you can probably use 6 volt dash light bulbs.

Tinker · 10-26-2011, 09:03 PM

Could run mechanical gauges. No wiring outside of night lighting.

peewee2you · 10-26-2011, 09:19 PM

I just installed a pair of VDO Classic Series mechanical and bracket.
attached some photo's

CC33 · 10-26-2011, 10:13 PM

These analog gauges don't require power? Just the sender to gauge?

These look like they might work out.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SW...0-72/?rtype=10

peewee2you · 10-26-2011, 10:24 PM

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CC33
Yes those guages from summit look like they would work fine. The ones from VDO in the pic, have a lite, but I am not going to use it, so no power needed either. The guages are mechanical and use a capillary tube for the water to travel to the guage, they were $39.00 each from, Summitracing or Jeggs.

Mike51Merc · 10-27-2011, 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by peewee2you

CC33
Yes those guages from summit look like they would work fine. The ones from VDO in the pic, have a lite, but I am not going to use it, so no power needed either. The guages are mechanical and use a capillary tube for the water to travel to the guage, they were $39.00 each from, Summitracing or Jeggs.

You can get a 6V bulb for the light. By the way, mechanical gauges don't move "the water" (at least not the engine coolant) to the gauge. They are self contained.

Vic Piano · 10-27-2011, 07:51 AM

Does the '36 have two temp sending unit locations (one in each head)? I installed a mechanical temp gauge in our '39 (it has only one outlet in the driver’s side head). I installed two mechanical temp gauges in our '53 F-100 Panel Truck (it has two outlets, one in each head).

CC33 · 10-27-2011, 08:22 AM

Looks like the location for the sender is in the neck of the water pump.

peewee2you · 10-27-2011, 11:00 AM

Mike51merc, thanks for the correction in regards to water traveling to guage, it is sealed.

Matt in Alameda · 10-27-2011, 12:41 PM

Why not use one gauge and two senders hooked up to a double throw switch? That is what I did.......haven't got the car running yet, but sure am getting close....Matt in Alameda

deuce5wndw · 10-27-2011, 12:46 PM

I just put two stewart warner gauges on a 1936 flathead. My RH water pump didn't have the temp sender hole so I used another LH water pump on the RH side. The threads on the gauge fittings were the same thread as in the water pumps and had a shoulder at the bottom of the water pump hole so I didn't have to use adapter fittings.

CC33 · 10-27-2011, 01:37 PM

That's exactly what I have. Two left side water pumps. Did you have any clearance issue with the sender going in on the right? Nice to know the threads are the same.

deuce5wndw · 10-27-2011, 07:01 PM

No clearance problem at all, I like the idea of two gauges so if you have a problem you know which side it's on.

Brendan · 10-27-2011, 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by peewee2you

CC33
Yes those guages from summit look like they would work fine. The ones from VDO in the pic, have a lite, but I am not going to use it, so no power needed either. The guages are mechanical and use a capillary tube for the water to travel to the guage, they were $39.00 each from, Summitracing or Jeggs.

those are good ones also, i have run them on a few garbage truck motors that i had!

flatmotor40 · 10-28-2011, 04:56 AM

I screwed a set of Mon guages in the heads and I can read them when I think is is running hot but I took stats out and it runs way cooler

Tom in TN · 10-28-2011, 06:51 AM

Two mechanical gauges works good for me. Running a 36 motor in a 34 car.

rick r · 10-28-2011, 04:19 PM

as others have suggested, mechanical guages are a good choise, get the ones with 270 degree sweep. they give a more precise reading. i used SUNPRO which are available at most parts stores. they were less than $20 a few years ago. Personally i would not use stewart warner. from what i understand they are assembled in mexico from ??????> parts by a company out of pa. called maxima technologies. the words CUSTOMER SERVICE is not in their vocabulary. (just my personal experience)

Slick Steve · 10-29-2011, 11:31 AM

http://www.genosgarage.com/prodinfo....mber=WM-DUALTP

This is what I am going to use. Its from Westach. Seems to be perfect for this!

10-26-2011, 07:55 PM	#1
CC33 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 465	Looking to add dual temp gauges I am looking to add dual temp gauges under the dash. Currently has a '36 motor with rebuilt water pumps, still 6 volt. What type of senders and gauges should I use, and how are they wired?

10-26-2011, 09:01 PM	#2
B Duncan Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Easley, SC Posts: 51	Re: Looking to add dual temp gauges I am running mechanical Stewart Warner dual temp gauges. I have a 3 space cluster with the driver head on the left, oil pressure in the middle and the passenger head on the right side. With 180 deg. T-stats the driver side runs a lil over 165, and the passenger runs a lil over 175. As far as lighting goes, you can probably use 6 volt dash light bulbs. __________________ Brad Duncan

10-26-2011, 09:03 PM	#3
Tinker Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: MN Posts: 7,053	Re: Looking to add dual temp gauges Could run mechanical gauges. No wiring outside of night lighting.

10-26-2011, 09:19 PM	#4
peewee2you Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Elk Grove, CA Posts: 663	Re: Looking to add dual temp gauges I just installed a pair of VDO Classic Series mechanical and bracket. attached some photo's

10-26-2011, 10:13 PM	#5
CC33 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 465	Re: Looking to add dual temp gauges These analog gauges don't require power? Just the sender to gauge? These look like they might work out. http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SW...0-72/?rtype=10

10-26-2011, 10:24 PM	#6
peewee2you Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Elk Grove, CA Posts: 663	Re: Looking to add dual temp gauges Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) CC33 Yes those guages from summit look like they would work fine. The ones from VDO in the pic, have a lite, but I am not going to use it, so no power needed either. The guages are mechanical and use a capillary tube for the water to travel to the guage, they were $39.00 each from, Summitracing or Jeggs.

10-27-2011, 07:51 AM	#8
Vic Piano Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Odessa, FL Posts: 7,611	Re: Looking to add dual temp gauges Does the '36 have two temp sending unit locations (one in each head)? I installed a mechanical temp gauge in our '39 (it has only one outlet in the driver’s side head). I installed two mechanical temp gauges in our '53 F-100 Panel Truck (it has two outlets, one in each head). __________________ Imagination is more important than knowledge.

10-27-2011, 08:22 AM	#9
CC33 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 465	Re: Looking to add dual temp gauges Looks like the location for the sender is in the neck of the water pump.

10-27-2011, 11:00 AM	#10
peewee2you Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Elk Grove, CA Posts: 663	Re: Looking to add dual temp gauges Mike51merc, thanks for the correction in regards to water traveling to guage, it is sealed.

10-27-2011, 12:41 PM	#11
Matt in Alameda Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Alameda, California Posts: 335	Re: Looking to add dual temp gauges Why not use one gauge and two senders hooked up to a double throw switch? That is what I did.......haven't got the car running yet, but sure am getting close....Matt in Alameda

10-27-2011, 12:46 PM	#12
deuce5wndw Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Liberty, KY Posts: 901	Re: Looking to add dual temp gauges I just put two stewart warner gauges on a 1936 flathead. My RH water pump didn't have the temp sender hole so I used another LH water pump on the RH side. The threads on the gauge fittings were the same thread as in the water pumps and had a shoulder at the bottom of the water pump hole so I didn't have to use adapter fittings.

10-27-2011, 01:37 PM	#13
CC33 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 465	Re: Looking to add dual temp gauges That's exactly what I have. Two left side water pumps. Did you have any clearance issue with the sender going in on the right? Nice to know the threads are the same.

10-27-2011, 07:01 PM	#14
deuce5wndw Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Liberty, KY Posts: 901	Re: Looking to add dual temp gauges No clearance problem at all, I like the idea of two gauges so if you have a problem you know which side it's on.

10-28-2011, 04:56 AM	#16
flatmotor40 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Georgia Posts: 611	Re: Looking to add dual temp gauges I screwed a set of Mon guages in the heads and I can read them when I think is is running hot but I took stats out and it runs way cooler

10-28-2011, 06:51 AM	#17
Tom in TN Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Murfreesboro, TN Posts: 258	Re: Looking to add dual temp gauges Two mechanical gauges works good for me. Running a 36 motor in a 34 car.

10-28-2011, 04:19 PM	#18
rick r Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Woodville Ontario Posts: 227	Re: Looking to add dual temp gauges as others have suggested, mechanical guages are a good choise, get the ones with 270 degree sweep. they give a more precise reading. i used SUNPRO which are available at most parts stores. they were less than $20 a few years ago. Personally i would not use stewart warner. from what i understand they are assembled in mexico from ??????> parts by a company out of pa. called maxima technologies. the words CUSTOMER SERVICE is not in their vocabulary. (just my personal experience)

10-29-2011, 11:31 AM	#19
Slick Steve Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Indy Posts: 60	Re: Looking to add dual temp gauges http://www.genosgarage.com/prodinfo....mber=WM-DUALTP This is what I am going to use. Its from Westach. Seems to be perfect for this! __________________ "Street rods have a Chevy in front and a can of wax in the back.......Hot Rods have a Flathead in front and a box of tools in the back"-- Fred Offenhauser Check out my blog on my Flathead project! http://myav8.blogspot.com/ Last edited by Slick Steve; 10-30-2011 at 06:46 AM.